Starship Museums: why?

[Nerys Myk]

People stopped riding boats across the ocean once they could fly.
People stopped riding trains once they could drive or take the bus.
Things do become obsolete.

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People ride trains to work all the time. New York is well known for its train commuting.
Where I live there is a specific train line called the Capitol Corridor used for commuting to and from the Capitol

 

[Admiral Jean-Luc Picard]

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People ride trains to work all the time. New York is well known for its train commuting.
Where I live there is a specific train line called the Capitol Corridor used for commuting to and from the Capitol

#1 I'm talking about transportation, not fun.
#2 You live in the city. I don't. Most Americans don't.

 

[Nerys Myk]

#1 I'm talking about transportation, not fun.
#2 You live in the city. I don't. Most Americans don't.

If it takes you from point A to point B it's transportation. Fun on the ride is a bonus.
I don't live in the city. I live in a rural community. The train station is a bus ride away.

 

[The Old Mixer]

Trains and ships are both still used as practical modes of personal and freight transport.

 

[Nerys Myk]

#2 You live in the city. I don't. Most Americans don't.

Addendum: 80% of Americans live in cities.

The urbanization of the United States occurred over a period of many years, with the nation only attaining urban-majority status between 1910 and 1920.[2] Currently, over four-fifths of the U.S. population resides in urban areas, a percentage which is still increasing today.

 

[Dukhat]

People stopped riding boats across the ocean once they could fly.
People stopped riding trains once they could drive or take the bus.
Things do become obsolete.

Er, no they didn’t.

 

[Admiral Jean-Luc Picard]

If it takes you from point A to point B it's transportation. Fun on the ride is a bonus.
I don't live in the city. I live in a rural community. The train station is a bus ride away.

Planes are for transportation. Cruise ships are for fun. You don't take a cruise ship to visit a relative across the ocean. You book a flight.

Take a bus to the train? That's not rural, mate.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Planes are for transportation. Cruise ships are for fun. You don't take a cruise ship to visit a relative across the ocean. You book a flight.

Take a bus to the train? That's not rural, mate.

I'll let the ranches and farms in my area know.

 

[fireproof78]

People stopped riding boats across the ocean once they could fly.
People stopped riding trains once they could drive or take the bus.
Things do become obsolete.

People still use boats

People still use trains


They may be less common but not gone. Space travel demands flexibility not one

#1 I'm talking about transportation, not fun.
#2 You live in the city. I don't. Most Americans don't.

Spoiler alert: that's still transportation. There's trains in my area and I live in rural areas.

 

[Admiral Jean-Luc Picard]

People still use boats

People still use trains


They may be less common but not gone. Space travel demands flexibility not one

Spoiler alert: that's still transportation. There's trains in my area and I live in rural areas.

Mostly for pleasure and utilitarian reasons. Transportation is not the main reason. Most people drive cars, take taxi, ride-share, or the bus. If I need to go to the next town over, I don't take a train. If I want to go to Germany, I'm not going to book passage on a ship and spend a long ass time on the ocean like Titanic.

 

[fireproof78]

Mostly for pleasure and utilitarian reasons. Transportation is not the main reason. Most people drive cars, take taxi, ride-share, or the bus. If I need to go to the next town over, I don't take a train. If I want to go to Germany, I'm not going to book passage on a ship and spend a long ass time on the ocean like Titanic.

Which speaks to choice and flexibility not obsolesce.

The point is, to be quite blunt, eliminating starships is not done by changing the level of tech. There is still a need, small or large, and ships would still be present. And if that sounds ridiculous then I would toss Stargate SG-1 and Atlantis right on the ridiculous heap. I'm sure it belongs there.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Mostly for pleasure and utilitarian reasons. Transportation is not the main reason. Most people drive cars, take taxi, ride-share, or the bus. If I need to go to the next town over, I don't take a train. If I want to go to Germany, I'm not going to book passage on a ship and spend a long ass time on the ocean like Titanic.

So its gone from no one takes the train, it's obsolete to sometimes people take the train?
Again, travel by train is still common for shorter trips in some locations.
My mother likes ships. She's traveled to more places by ship than plane. It's what she prefers. And, no she's not rich. Just a middle-class lady who likes travel.

There is also more to the world than America. A friend of mine has traveled all over Europe via the train. As a young boy living in Japan, my troop and I took the train from where we lived in Northern Japan to a Boy Scout Camp near Tokyo. Nothing like navigating a crowded commuter car with a full backpack.

 

[Admiral Jean-Luc Picard]

Which speaks to choice and flexibility not obsolesce.

The point is, to be quite blunt, eliminating starships is not done by changing the level of tech. There is still a need, small or large, and ships would still be present. And if that sounds ridiculous then I would toss Stargate SG-1 and Atlantis right on the ridiculous heap. I'm sure it belongs there.

You fail to understand I didn't mean they should get rid of starships. I was denoting how utterly stupid and ridiculous it is to beam starbases wherever, and the conversation got bonkers.

 

[fireproof78]

You fail to understand I didn't mean they should get rid of starships. I was denoting how utterly stupid and ridiculous it is to beam starbases wherever, and the conversation got bonkers.

It's neither of those things.

Again, see Stargate.

 

[Admiral Jean-Luc Picard]

So its gone from no one takes the train, it's obsolete to sometimes people take the train?
Again, travel by train is still common for shorter trips in some locations.
My mother likes ships. She's traveled to more places by ship than plane. It's what she prefers. And, no she's not rich. Just a middle-class lady who likes travel.

There is also more to the world than America. A friend of mine has traveled all over Europe via the train. As a young boy living in Japan, my troop and I took the train from where we lived in Northern Japan to a Boy Scout Camp near Tokyo. Nothing like navigating a crowded commuter car with a full backpack.

"No one takes the train," meaning not unless you're in the city. Out where I live, the only trains are purely to haul cargo. You want to take the train? Get a job and get a car.

 

[Admiral Jean-Luc Picard]

It's neither of those things.

Again, see Stargate.

They don't go around hauling or beaming starbases.

 

[fireproof78]

They don't go around hauling or beaming starbases.

They create giant gates to warp huge ships. They have stations that can travel as well.

It's really ok to have a variety of technology. Not sure why it is stupid or ridiculous.

 

[Nerys Myk]

"No one takes the train," meaning not unless you're in the city. Out where I live, the only trains are purely to haul cargo. You want to take the train? Get a job and get a car.

Ah, so it's a "you thing" and irrelevant to a wider discussion.

 

[fireproof78]

Ah, so it's a "you thing" and irrelevant to a wider discussion.

 

[HotRod]

"No one takes the train," meaning not unless you're in the city. Out where I live, the only trains are purely to haul cargo. You want to take the train? Get a job and get a car.

I took the train just the other week, and I live in a rural community. I needed to be in Toronto, and like a great many other people, I drove to a station in a smaller community, jumped on a GO Train, and used that to get into town. Why? Because no one in their right mind wants to drive in Toronto right now.