Most useful terrain is occupied / claimed by a Nation State.
There is very little "Unclaimed Territory" for people to start a colony on Earth.
And most Political Processes will find ways to clamp down on the "Fringe Elements" of society.
What ships SHOULD they have used in the Dominion War?
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There is very little "Unclaimed Territory" for people to start a colony on Earth.
And most Political Processes will find ways to clamp down on the "Fringe Elements" of society.
The issue is not whether people can start a colony but whether they can achieve their goals. The effort to start a colony applied to the political process might yield the same results. Not all colonies are good and some “fringe elements” don’t get anywhere because they’re bad.
True, but the opportunities to start and make a successful colony would be easier in the future when they can travel out of existing Nation-State boundaries and end up in a relatively little known / UnExplored Solar System and claim that Star System for themselves.
I like the Shi’Kahr class (the TNG-ified version, not that godawful thing they started with.) It looks perfect as a contemporary to the New Orleans, Cheyenne, Springfield etc. ship classes.
I think it looks too much like a Springfield when you turn it upside down.
Federation ships evaluated for combat capability.
Actually I feel that way about a number of the Wolf 359 ships, like the Cheyenne and the New Orleans classes.
Where does that number come from? I thought the fleet was 40 ships and 39 of them were destroyed. Is a group of 260 Klingon ships helping being suggested?
That would mean the Borg Cube was huge in the extreme if it could take on 300 ships and have minimal damage while apparently 260 Klingon ships are gone completely and 39 Federation ships remain as wreckage, with one Federation ship surviving. Assuming, that is, that the Cheyenne class ship, shown intact is not a ship that was "lost" be intact and re-crewed while another ship is the survivor. Probably the Cheyenne class ship is the survivor.
I think that number was from the novelization of First Contact about the Federation fleet that intercepted the second Borg cube heading for Earth. The fleet managed to keep at the Cube all the way from the Typhon sector to Earth with Word and the USS Defiant engaged until the arrival of the USS Enterprise-E.
That battle was just months before the start of the Dominion War
Ok. So this is not the battle with the Borg in TNG season 3, but the one in First Contact. That would fit with 300 ships, since that is supposed to be a bigger battle since both sides knew the other was coming. 300 ships during the series of TNG would not make sense for that in my opinion.
Scroll down to Zodiac class.
Is there a reason why you are pointing this specific non-canon class out?
Because it is an expedient reaction to the Border Wars. To replace those old Mirandas in the role of border patrol.
Something along these lines should have been built during the Border Wars. But....
But the public may have become too complacent. In a Federation with a strong pacifist streak.
Apparently we saw something similar in Western Europe after the Cold War.
The Galaxy family of ship designs were likely sold as multi-role vessels, rather than dedicated warships. Resulting in a defense that was just adequate for the time, but not for a real Crisis.
But the public may have become too complacent. In a Federation with a strong pacifist streak.
Apparently we saw something similar in Western Europe after the Cold War.
The Galaxy family of ship designs were likely sold as multi-role vessels, rather than dedicated warships. Resulting in a defense that was just adequate for the time, but not for a real Crisis.
There’s always a “Crisis.” It wouldn’t have mattered if they drove around in Death Stars, it’s a TV show, the aliens would be driving around in bigger Death Stars. Which, btw is what happened. Even the TOS Enterprise could destroy all life on a planet.
The Galaxy Class was the most sophisticated piece of technology ever created, a flagship battleship to take on the meanest starships of the Klingon, Romulan, Tholian, Breen, Talarian, Tzenkethi, Sheliak or Cardassian empires—everybody known at the time. And when the Dominion War broke out, they were still in there taking names. Even the Odyssey, a pre-upgrade Galaxy, completed its mission without useful shields.
They’re beasts. Always were.
The Galaxy Class was the most sophisticated piece of technology ever created, a flagship battleship to take on the meanest starships of the Klingon, Romulan, Tholian, Breen, Talarian, Tzenkethi, Sheliak or Cardassian empires—everybody known at the time. And when the Dominion War broke out, they were still in there taking names. Even the Odyssey, a pre-upgrade Galaxy, completed its mission without useful shields.
They’re beasts. Always were.
Do we have any canon evidence that the Miranda class was ever given the role of border patrol? As a matter of fact, the only canon knowledge we have of any ships on border patrol by the TNG era were the Excelsior class Berlin and the Nebula class Monitor, both on Romulan Neutral Zone patrol. So a starship's class is not a determining factor as to what missions it is assigned.
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From the TUC Starship Mission Assignments chart, we also have the following ships on Neutral Zone patrol in 2293:
USS Helin NCC-1692
USS Republic NCC-1371
USS Kongo NCC-1710
USS Springfield NCC-1963
USS Emden NCC-1856
However, we do not canonically know what classes these ships belong to, and based on the era, they would probably be limited to either the Constitution, Miranda, or Oberth classes.
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