Starship Museums: why?

[BillJ]

I'm approaching this from the POV of view of it being real, me living in the late 24th century, and real-world physics and limitations also applying to Star Trek world except for when fancy alienism and futurism creeps in. If technology can do whatever the plot says because the plot says so, then it ceases to be sci-fi and becomes space fantasy like Star Wars.

You have shields and structural integrity fields. So the structure would be fine at warp. You would likely need multiple starships to tow it.

So, I’m just not seeing the problem.

 

[Admiral Jean-Luc Picard]

You have shields and structural integrity fields. So the structure would be fine at warp. You would likely need multiple starships to tow it.

So, I’m just not seeing the problem.

A space station is not a starship.
What if something goes wrong? Why risk it?

 

[BillJ]

What if something goes wrong? Why risk it?

Because they no longer had use for it. And, Starfleet has lots of smart people, I’m sure they could handle it. Which they obviously did, since the station got moved.

 

[Admiral Jean-Luc Picard]

Because they no longer had use for it. And, Starfleet has lots of smart people, I’m sure they could handle it. Which they obviously did, since the station got moved.

No, they still had use for it. They could have just upgraded instead of warping it away and building a new one. NYC is pretty old. Should we just bulldoze it and build NYC 2.0?

 

[BillJ]

No, they still had use for it. They could have just upgraded instead of warping it away and building a new one. NYC is pretty old. Should we just bulldoze it and build NYC 2.0?

You need to take that up with Starfleet and the Federation.

 

[HotRod]

No, they still had use for it. They could have just upgraded instead of warping it away and building a new one. NYC is pretty old. Should we just bulldoze it and build NYC 2.0?

Clearly they had use for it elsewhere, otherwise they wouldn't have moved it.

I'm still failing to understand why this is such an issue for you. With all the talk of structural Integrity fields and warp bubbles, coming to a conclusion on how it was moved doesn't seem that difficult.

As Trekkies, we're sometimes required to use our imaginations. Try it sometime.

 

[evilchumlee]

I'm approaching this from the POV of view of it being real, me living in the late 24th century, and real-world physics and limitations also applying to Star Trek world except for when fancy alienism and futurism creeps in. If technology can do whatever the plot says because the plot says so, then it ceases to be sci-fi and becomes space fantasy like Star Wars.

They only time we see that being an issue is with DS9, which was a Cardassian station that had been sabotaged by them before leaving... in general, we don't really see much of a limitation on what they can move around in Star Trek. We've never seen anything that was too big to warp... and even if that case, they weren't even going at warp, they were trying to push the station with thrusters.

Warp should be easier since there's no thrust. The size of the object shouldn't really matter.

 

[Tuskin38]

take the station apart, slap some warp sustainers on it and tow it with a warp tug.

 

[at Quark's]

Because Starfleet makes their new ships with planned obsolescence.

Adm. Stolnayech: Oh for Cochrane's sake! There's that annoying Utopia Planitia salesman again! I'm erm ... I cannot be disturbed, I urgently need to prepare for tomorrow's staff meeting. Captain Doves, surely I can entrust you with, erm, receiving him?
Capt. Doves: Sir, I really need to...
Adm. Stolnayech <barking>: That's an order, Doves!
Capt Doves <looks unhappy> Yessir.
Salesman: Good morning, good morning! Did you smell the fresh coffee this morning and wonder what exactly made it smell so good? Well, our new Janeway class of vessels has been equipped with the latest in sensor technology, and it will tell you the answer in a picosecond!
Capt Doves: I don't drink .....
Salesman: and she's 20 percent faster than the obsolete intrepid class!
Capt Doves: But we only bought those five years ....
Salesman: faster warp jump initiation times too! Multi-Transvector-Assault-Mode, a huge upgrade from regular Multi-Vector Assault Mode! Don't even ask me to describe the differences, because I haven't got the faintest clue! haha!
Capt Doves: Impressive, but we ...
Salesman: Not only does it come equipped with it three EMH's - mark 7, no less!, it also has an EMO (Emergency Morale Officer hologram) pre-installed!
Salesman: and you'll receive a fifteen-percent discount if you retire your old Intrepids within three months! You know we're cutting support on those 15 days from now so you won't be able to replace parts any longer, don't you? Here! Sign on the dotted line!
Capt Doves <sighs and signs>.

 

[Admiral Jean-Luc Picard]

take the station apart, slap some warp sustainers on it and tow it with a warp tug.

It's not legos!

 

[Tuskin38]

It's not legos!

How do you know? We have zero canon information on how it was built. It could have been done in sections.

People have disassembled entire buildings/bridges and moved them across the world and reassembled them.

Surely the future technology of Trek would be able to do that with a starbase.

 

[BillJ]

It's not legos!

There seems to be lots of Starfleet technology that seems to be plug-and-play. Why couldn't various pieces been put together elsewhere, and then been connected in Earth orbit?

You seem very limited on how you see a fantastical sci-fi universe.

 

[Admiral Jean-Luc Picard]

How do you know? We have zero canon information on how it was built. It could have been done in sections.

People have disassembled entire buildings/bridges and moved them across the world and reassembled them.

Surely the future technology of Trek would be able to do that with a starbase.

Yes, but Spacedock is a lot bigger and in a zero-G outer space (no atmosphere) environment.

 

[BillJ]

Yes, but Spacedock is a lot bigger and in a zero-G outer space (no atmosphere) environment.

I'm not sure I see how this matters?

 

[Admiral Jean-Luc Picard]

There seems to be lots of Starfleet technology that seems to be plug-and-play. Why couldn't various pieces been put together elsewhere, and then been connected in Earth orbit?

You seem very limited on how you see a fantastical sci-fi universe.

I didn't address Starfleet tech, I addressed Spacedock. It's very different than Data and Chief O'Brien working on tech in the transporter room.

 

[Admiral Jean-Luc Picard]

I'm not sure I see how this matters?

I can't help you then.

 

[BillJ]

I didn't address Starfleet tech, I addressed Spacedock. It's very different than Data and Chief O'Brien working on tech in the transporter room.

I'm still not getting it, honestly. The French created the Statue of Liberty and moved it here, piecemeal. We can move buildings in the here and now, in gravity with all its inherent shortcomings. I just think you're a little short on imagination.

 

[Admiral Jean-Luc Picard]

I'm still not getting it, honestly. The French created the Statue of Liberty and moved it here, piecemeal. We can move buildings in the here and now, in gravity with all its inherent shortcomings. I just think you're a little short on imagination.

Spacedock is a bit bigger. I'm approaching this with realism in mind.

 

[BillJ]

I'm approaching this with realism in mind.

You're approaching it with the realism of the here-and-now. Not a super society that spans eight thousand light years, hundreds of cultures, and has wonderous tools not available to 21st century humans.

 

[fireproof78]

There seems to be lots of Starfleet technology that seems to be plug-and-play. Why couldn't various pieces been put together elsewhere, and then been connected in Earth orbit?

You seem very limited on how you see a fantastical sci-fi universe.

Exactly. We are told of some modularity, but also shown that tech can be scaled up to larger degrees to move things. Moving Spacedock, especially in a zero G environment, should be relatively easy.