Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

[JD]

It wasn't a team up book, but the early issues had plenty of appearances by other characters. Like @M'rk son of Mogh pointed out, the FF appeared in issue #1, and then Daredevil appeared in #16, #17 & #19 had guest appearances by The Human Torch, and Annual #3 already had the Avengers considering letting him join the group. So team ups and crossovers have been a pretty regular occurrence for Spidey literally since his first issue.

 

[Gaith]

So it seems they aren't going to do a clean break from the old cast if Zendaya was also reading the script.

I believe they're still dating, so she could have been informally consulting, but seeing as she's a big star, she'll likely be back.

I think bringing one of the other Spider-Men right back would indeed be too much, but I'm not automatically opposed to a story that touches on the multiverse.

 

[Moviefan2k4]

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I must say that while I couldn't understand much of the dialogue, the footage itself is very impressive. Waiting 5 whole months completely sucks, though - I just hope they don't limit it to streaming only. Shows like Loki, Moon Knight, WandaVision, and The Falcon and the Winter Soldier were all released physically, while the likes of She-Hulk and Ms. Marvel weren't. We never even got a disc release of the Netflix show's third year, and that ended 6 years ago! Stop being so damn stubborn, Disney!

 

[StarTrek1701]

It's not like the Secret Invasion comic was all that good to start with.

Better than the show at least.

 

[Saul]

I wonder if they might compromise. The villain comes from the multi-verse but all the action is contained within New York and Spider-Man has to fight him on a more grounded level. No more fancy Stark style suit as well.

I bet that fancy Stark suit gets replaced by a fancy symbiote suit.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I bet that fancy Stark suit gets replaced by a fancy symbiote suit.

Not still Secret Wars.

 

[Samurai8472]

Tom holland and zendaya have read the Spider-Man 4 script.

Tom Holland Read ‘Spider-Man 4’ Script With Zendaya and Says It’s ‘Excellent’ but ‘Needs Work’; Fitting Sequel Into MCU Timeline Is a ‘Challenge We’re Facing’

Tom Holland read the "Spider-Man 4" script with Zendaya and says it lit a fire in him.

variety.com

“We have a creative and we have a pitch and a draft, which is excellent,” Holland added. “It needs work, but the writers are doing a great job. I read it three weeks ago and it really lit a fire in me. Zendaya and I sat down and read it together and we at times were bouncing around the living room like this is a real movie worthy of the fans’ respect.”

 

[Christopher]

"Bouncing around the living room" is something Spider-Man has been known to do.

 

[Ssosmcin]

The rumor I've heard is that Holland wants to do a more traditional Spider-Man movie following on from where he left off at the end of No Way Home--alone, few to no resources, the classic down-on-his-luck Peter Parker--but Sony (I didn't see Marvel mentioned) is pushing for more multiverse shenanigans. Hopefully Holland gets his way.

I would absolutely love for them to use the finale of the last film as the jumping off point to bring in other characters for Peter. Let MJ and Ned have their lives in college and give us Felicia Hardy, Deb Whitman, Lance Bannon, John Jameson, maybe an MCU Gwen Stacy (who doesn't die - let's flip the script for her) and a Harry Osborn who isn't a Green Goblin. Indeed, a Peter Parker who has to be that Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man fighting the Shocker, the Enforcers and smaller scale villains who escape the notice of the big heroes would be welcome. Hell, I'm sure there are a lot of really great characters to mine who were introduced long after I stopped reading regularly. Morlun and Ezekiel would be great to see also.

 

[Jayson1]

"Bouncing around the living room" is something Spider-Man has been known to do.

My naughty mind can't help but go to other places when thinking about them, "bouncing around the living room."

 

[Christopher]

Indeed, a Peter Parker who has to be that Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man fighting the Shocker, the Enforcers and smaller scale villains who escape the notice of the big heroes would be welcome.

That makes me think that Spidey should really be a TV series character instead of a movie character. These days the CGI is up to it, at least for a high-budgeted streaming series. Though it should ideally be something more episodic than streaming series these days tend to be.

 

[Jayson1]

Spider-Man is to much of a big name to just do tv shows about. It already a guaranteed hit and they haven't even started filming.

 

[Saul]

Not still Secret Wars.

It was almost in 'No Way Home'. Let's see what happens in the next Venom movie....

 

[Nerys Myk]

 

[theenglish]

I believe they're still dating, so she could have been informally consulting, but seeing as she's a big star, she'll likely be back.

In the interviews posted a while back, Holland talks about reading through the script with Zendaya and the two of them getting really excited about it. He also talks about how he's felt empowered to say no to ideas for the character now that his first contract has ended and they want him to return. He has talked about wanting to do Spider-Man movies that serve the development of the character (presumably as opposed to flashy films lacking substance).

 

[cooleddie74]

I still have my copy of this.

 

[Mage]

That makes me think that Spidey should really be a TV series character instead of a movie character. These days the CGI is up to it, at least for a high-budgeted streaming series. Though it should ideally be something more episodic than streaming series these days tend to be.

I am onboard for this.

We know this Spidey did start out street level. After things like Infinity War, Endgame and No Way Home, suddenly his big threat is a gang in his neck of the wood. And after taking out these nameless alien creatures on a huge battlefield, one of the people he is up against is this 14yo kid that lives one floor down his appartment building. That way it can be both episodic AND have an arc through a season.

 

[Ssosmcin]

In the interviews posted a while back, Holland talks about reading through the script with Zendaya and the two of them getting really excited about it. He also talks about how he's felt empowered to say no to ideas for the character now that his first contract has ended and they want him to return. He has talked about wanting to do Spider-Man movies that serve the development of the character (presumably as opposed to flashy films lacking substance).

I have to give them credit for No Way Home: what could have just been multi-verse shenanigans and nostalgia bait actually holds up as a nice emotionally compelling story, not only for the MCU Peter regarding the loss of May, but for the prior two: especially Garfield's. That moment when he caught MJ was a beautifully done healing moment (I almost cried with him). It was also great how all three worked together rather than going in a direction of conflict. I thought Homecoming was okay, Far From Home was really good and No Way Home a real grand slam. I prefer it to the Multiverse of Madness, which didn't have that same resonance for me.

That makes me think that Spidey should really be a TV series character instead of a movie character. These days the CGI is up to it, at least for a high-budgeted streaming series. Though it should ideally be something more episodic than streaming series these days tend to be.

I don't disagree, but Spider-Man is to the MCU was Batman is to the DCU. They'll make TV shows in his universe but never actually with him because his films are cash cows.

A street level Spider-Man film would do pretty darned well because it's Spider-Man. I don't mean they lose tech heavy adversaries. The Vulture was a great example of what they could do without it being a universe ending or city collapsing catastrophe. Something along the lines, say just for illustration, the Shocker and Peter having to deal with that on his own, without Dr. Strange, or any of the other remaining heroes. No super Stark tech, just a young man, his abilities, costume and web-shooters at local college. And introducing a new supporting cast wouldn't require more than any other film would. Peter would already know some of them.

I have no doubt Zendaya will be back, but how she figures would (and should) be different. Like alt. Gamora.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

It wasn't a team up book, but the early issues had plenty of appearances by other characters

It was not "plenty", if you've ever read all of the issues from the 60s, and certainly not enough to compare it to the way the MCU is handled. Two completely different animals--the opposite of "pretty regular".

 

[Christopher]

I don't disagree, but Spider-Man is to the MCU was Batman is to the DCU. They'll make TV shows in his universe but never actually with him because his films are cash cows.

Hmm, I'm not so sure. DC/WB has this weird policy where they never want two competing live-action versions of a character at the same time, but that's because most of their shows have been in distinct continuities from the films and they thought having two competing versions would undercut each other financially or confuse audiences or something. They don't object to doing TV series based on major characters like Superman or Flash, but they'll only do them if there isn't a competing movie version in the works. (They did plan to release a Flash movie while the TV series was on, but that was only because the TV series had come first and was a big hit. And as it worked out, they didn't release the movie until the series ended.) It's just that there are always Batman movies in the works, so the best a TV series can do is to use Batman-adjacent characters or to feature Bruce Wayne in a non-Batman role.

But I don't think Marvel has the same policy, particularly because nearly all its live-action shows and films are in the same universe, so it would be seen as synergy, not competition. Even before Disney+, a number of MCU film characters showed up in Agents of SHIELD (Coulson obviously, but a few others including Nick Fury, Jasper Sitwell, Lady Sif, and President Ellis). And now they do TV series built around movie characters like Vision, Scarlet Witch, Falcon, Winter Soldier, Hawkeye, etc. Heck, they've even taken characters who started out in their own peripheral TV world, like Kingpin and Daredevil, and brought them fully into the MCU.

I'm not saying I expect them to do a Spidey series, but if they don't, it would probably be because Holland is too expensive, or because of something to do with the Sony/Marvel split of control over the character. It wouldn't be for the same reason DC doesn't do Batman, because they're not the same studio and they have their own distinct approaches and reasons for doing things.