It's been in the canon for a few decades.
Which series would you want next?
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Robert April is black, therefore TAS is a lie.
*Sighs*
That's...not how this works. That's not how any of this works. I would not recommend going to stage plays at all if this is the attitude.
Saavik doesn’t look like Kirstie Alley. TSFS is a lie.
Recasting is a hard concept.
Also illustrates the wonderful double standard on TAS. Oh, SNW contradicts TAS? Well, TAS must be wrong!
SNW contradicts TOS? SNW must be wrong.
Sounds like you get it.
Sounds like a double standard, an excuse to rationalize away things we don't like. Star Trek must only be this one category and can never deviate and if it deviates it must be wrong!
Actually, how it usually works in the Star Trek universe is that new canon trumps old canon. Kirk’s middle initial was R, until it wasn’t. April was white, until he wasn’t. The Klingons look like oily-skinned humans, until they didn’t. Vulcan had no moon, until it did. Kirk and crew had never heard of the Gorn, until they did. Etc., etc. And some future production by completely different showrunners will show that SNW did this, until they didn’t.
TV screens feature around 2 million dots that each display one tiny bit of colour. But when you look at them from a bit of a distance your brain can assemble them into an image. You can even distort the image a bit, add some static and corruption, and if there's enough of it there your brain will process it and figure it out.Sounds like a double standard, an excuse to rationalize away things we don't like. Star Trek must only be this one category and can never deviate and if it deviates it must be wrong!
When I look at Star Trek, it's parts of Discovery and Strange New Worlds that add the most distortion to the image. Things like Disco Klingons are the tiny bits of corrupted data that my brain filters out so that the rest of it makes sense.
And TAS just doesn't count because it's rubbish.
That's not how it works. It would be nice, but no.
Or...we can use available data to assume it's not corrupted but just additional information not already known. For example, the Augment virus. We know it had an impact but how the Klingons handled it was an unknown.
Ok, so I'll just go ahead and discard about 43 to 50% of all Star Trek stories because I deme them rubbish.
I was being a little glib for the lols.
The reason TAS isn't a good fit for the rest of Star Trek, is that the rest of the franchise wasn't designed to take it into account. It was declared non-canon, and the series that followed took themselves and their reality more seriously. There are some decent episodes in there, like One Of Our Planets is Missing, More Tribbles, More Troubles, and The Pirates of Orion, and it did a surprisingly good job of staying faithful to TOS for what it was. It's cool seeing the old Orion ships and Edosians show up on Lower Decks. But when another show contradicts it, TAS is going to lose, because TAS is bonkers. It goes into proper 70s psychedelic absurdity. Watching The Counter-Clock Incident is like staring at a Medusan, except the visor does nothing.
I don't care if it is bonkers. TAS stays.
Other shows should loose.
Or, more reasonably, be taken as just an alternate telling of a STar Trek story.
It's no less serious than TOS.
It's no more "psychedelic" that some TOS Episodes. Come on, speed water? And the 60s were psychedelic, not the 70s
It's far more realistic than the rapid changing of uniforms that seems to go on in all the other eras. But that said, I feel confident anything set in The Lost Era is going to show new uniforms.
Well, Yesterday's Enterprise did air before TUC was released, by nearly two years.
Agreed. I'd also expect a new bridge for the Stargazer if we ever got anything involving young Picard.
Actually, the Enterprise-C bridge, like the Bozeman bridge later, was a mashup of the TMP Enterprise/battle bridge set and the Enterprise-D chairs and helm/nav consoles (which were also used for the Enterprise-B bridge), just positioned differently. So really, guest bridges during TNG were just cobbled together from whatever they had handy without any rhyme or reason.
I'd say, or hope, that anything lost era will add variants rather than erasing existing uniforms. We've already seen a "close enough" approximation of the MM in SNW, so I don't think it's going anywhere.
In regards to the airdate, yes I understood that, which was the issue with the time jump. They were portraying a later era while an earlier era was still shown to be getting better and better in appearance. Even the B bridge made the C bridge look squat, dark and less interesting.
Explanations are always available in-universe and out, ofc.
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