• Welcome! The TrekBBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans.
    If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Which series would you want next?

Which series would you want after Strange New Worlds?

  • Legacy

    Votes: 48 33.6%
  • Stargazer/Young Picard

    Votes: 5 3.5%
  • Rachel Garrett

    Votes: 17 11.9%
  • Romulan War/Birth of the Federation

    Votes: 23 16.1%
  • Other

    Votes: 50 35.0%

  • Total voters
    143
Her last name is Sh'Reyan, which is not only an Andorian name, it's in the style of Andorian last names as established in the novels.

Yes you should have. ;)

Having said that.... I forgotten about her last name, and that's interesting because it does mean the writers of the show took care into reaching into both shows and novels to learn about Andorians. And yet purposefully chose a human first name. As far as I know, that was never mentioned on the show. And it just makes me very curious about more backstory for Jennifer.
I believe the trailer for season 5 did include Jennifer, right? So here's hoping we'll get a bit more.
 
Having said that.... I forgotten about her last name, and that's interesting because it does mean the writers of the show took care into reaching into both shows and novels to learn about Andorians. And yet purposefully chose a human first name. As far as I know, that was never mentioned on the show. And it just makes me very curious about more backstory for Jennifer.
If I remember right, Jennifer's first name came from Tawny Newsome ad-libbing during a take.
 
They're certainly more creative.

On Star Trek, yes. Matalas hasn't offered up anything inspiring for Star Trek.


I'm not going to fight here. I agree, even though I am aware that a few of the PIC writers (Monefette, Tretta, Fickett) worked with Matalas on 12 Monkeys as well and are essentially a part of the Matalas team. Mike Sussman, of VOY and ENT fame, also worked on 12 Monkeys with Matalas and could also be brought in for whatever Matalas is working on.

The pitches for Legacy sound more like something intended for a continuation of PIC (ex. S4 & S5, or P+ tv movie trilogy) than a spinoff series. It just does not sound like a strong enough proposal for a spinoff series. Nothing wrong with that, btw. There are ways to work within those parameters. I just don't get why Matalas needs Legacy to be a separate series. He wanted the same thing for PIC S3, and to call the whole series The Last Generation.

If Paramount wants a spinoff series from PIC, there are two stronger ideas for what Legacy should be than what's been pitched so far:

- A deconstruction of Seven of Nine, which is not reliant on Raffi, Jack, Sydney, various Berman-era legacy characters, and the Ent-G setting. Basically PIC, but with the focus on Seven this time.

- A series set a century after the events of STO i.e. 2509-2511. A clean break from the TNG era.
 
I forgotten about her last name, and that's interesting because it does mean the writers of the show took care into reaching into both shows and novels to learn about Andorians.
I think it has more to do with the fact that Lower Decks has a novel author working as a creative consultant, as does Prodigy.
 
If Paramount wants a spinoff series from PIC, there are two stronger ideas for what Legacy should be than what's been pitched so far:

- A deconstruction of Seven of Nine, which is not reliant on Raffi, Jack, Sydney, various Berman-era legacy characters, and the Ent-G setting. Basically PIC, but with the focus on Seven this time.

That's the best case scenario. Seven is the Captain. That's what I want to see.

I *DO* also want Jack there, I can take or leave Sydney, but I also definitely want the Ent-G. I'm ok with Raffi going away. Maybe pop in on occasion, but otherwise not a regular.

Legacy characters should be around but not the focus.
 
There's never been an "illusion of continuity." The only people who say so are the ones who want to slam the current product by elevating the previous stuff. This whole "illusion of continuity" rhetoric is more about romanticizing the past than it is critiquing the present.
Actually it's what created the fan base in the first-place. By saying this is "romanticizing the past" you are admitting that it did exist.
But again, it's never been kept intact to any kind of believable degree.
TOS couldn't remember which century it takes place in
There is not a single episode of the Original Series that purposefully has a date outside of the 23rd century, and I don't know of one.
TNG has Data claim he graduated from the Academy on a date which was fourteen years in the future.
This would be an example of a small mistake, not a big purposeful change to the canon that affects the entire plot of the series. I make the distinction.
O'Brien constantly switching back and forth between an officer and a non-com, as well as whether Starfleet even has enlisted ranks to begin with. And let's not even start on Voyager's supposedly irreplaceable photon torpedoes.
These are very small mistakes that are bound to happen but they don't drastically alter the story.
Yeah, okay. Keep ******* that chicken.
I make the point because I just can't believe people can't see the night and day distinction between the minor inconstancies in the series up to 2005, and the huge inconsistencies nearly every episode with the new series'. I do remember back in the day when such language would not be tolerated on forums. But then again back in those days moderators were very keen on responses pertaining to the original discussion so I will make this the last response as not to drag it on further.

As per my original post, I re-affirm that a series based on Star Trek Online's plots would be interesting if done right. Even if it were under Alex Kurtzman, if it were done right I think that it would be worth it. There are people who have responded saying it's not good enough, that's fine but it could be added to or changed as well by the production company. That's really the best I can say.
 
There is not a single episode of the Original Series that purposefully has a date outside of the 23rd century, and I don't know of one.
There's a big difference between the 23rd century and the 28th century.
I make the point because I just can't believe people can't see the night and day distinction between the minor inconstancies in the series up to 2005, and the huge inconsistencies nearly every episode with the new series'.

They're all minor inconsistencies. It's fiction and mutable to a certain degree. Certainly I don't think a video game lore is worth investigation to pretend the fictional history lines up better.
 
There is not a single episode of the Original Series that purposefully has a date outside of the 23rd century, and I don't know of one.
Actually, there's no episode that places it in the 23rd Century. It's date range is all over, often in the 22nd Century and once on in the 28th Century!!!!!
This would be an example of a small mistake, not a big purposeful change to the canon that affects the entire plot of the series. I make the distinction.
It was one the earliest "date drops" in TNG. It can't be a mistake.
 
I think the bigger question is why is Matalas the only way forward? What is it that he has said or done with Seven that excites people?

I get that Seven appeals for many reasons but what does Matalas actually offer?
Picard Season 3? 12 Monkeys?
 
If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Sign up / Register


Back
Top