she is all of the above and more.
Which series would you want next?
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She's writing for Starfleet Academy, and she's not acting in that. The only show I can think of off the top of my head where the writer is the star was The Orville, and we know how well that went.
Went great. Three seasons so far with a fourth shooting in January.
The Orville is better than anything CBSAA/P+ has produced, with the possible exception of Prodigy.
It's great for the people who like it.
FWIW, I think there's potential for holo!Mariner to show up once in awhile in Starfleet Academy. Maybe one of the cadets summons a holo of a famously lousy ensign or something who finally turned it all around for advice...
There was no chance for production because there was a regime change at Paramount a couple of days after Jendresen submitted his script for ST:TB.
Frankly, I was sold on the ideas of Christopher Walken possibly playing Tiberius Chase’s uncle. And that Jendresen wanted to do something real.
Who know what else they could have accomplished if they went through with it. Chris Pine playing Tiberius Chase instead of Kirk? Tom Hanks as Admiral Gardner?
I think you are understating the involvement of Leonard Nimoy in the Abrams film. IDK if that film series happens without him. It certainly hasn't continued considering how there's no movement on ST4.
Absolutely nothing. Trek needs a rest. It's such a jumbled mess right now. Don't get me wrong I have enjoyed some of the current stuff. Notably Picard Season 3 and Disco Season 5. But the rest has been middling to awful. We never got a proper break with Trek since TMP. IMHO.
We have had almost nonstop live action trek since 1979. The only breaks were between the first 4 TOS movies and 4 years between Enterprise and the 2009 film as well as a couple years between those films. That's it. Now we have had 7 years without a break. 3 live action series with 2 more to come and a streaming film.
We have had almost nonstop live action trek since 1979. The only breaks were between the first 4 TOS movies and 4 years between Enterprise and the 2009 film as well as a couple years between those films. That's it. Now we have had 7 years without a break. 3 live action series with 2 more to come and a streaming film.
I voted for Romulan War/Birth of the Federation just because Romulans are my favorite race. I would honestly be good with any of the options, especially if they at least have Romulans in there from time to time.
And a good thing that happened too. Because there's no way a Romulan war movie would have re-energized the franchise like JJ Abrams' film did.
They only needed Nimoy's involvement for the first film. Nobody even knew he had a cameo in the second movie. And the reason why the KT films have petered out is because of Paramount's utter failure with marketing them since STID.
For a major species, their involvement is understated. TFF, TUC, GEN (as corpses), NEM and ST’09 are the only films they appear in.
Meanwhile Klingons have being involved in every film in some capacity, except BEY.
There’s no way to know that.
The 2000s was still the age of the action hero. The tailend of that era, but that decade was still was producing hit.
WWII-themed media was still popular at the time. And ST:TB was WWII in space.
War of the Worlds themes movies were popular (ID4 in 1996, and the War of the Worlds movies starring Tom Cruise that was released in 2005 – a mere four years before ST’09).
And you are discounting that Star Trek would not have had a major name attached to the move at some point. Again, Jendresen had eyes on Christopher Walken being involved in the movie.
The only thing known at that time was that both the audience and the studio was tired of Berman-era Trek; the audience did not like what was being produced, and the studio was tired of it not raking in money they thought it should have been making. It did not necessarily mean they were done with Star Trek in general.
Nimoy’s had a role in all three films regardless (arriving in the Kelvinverse and generally being the genesis of the story in ST’09, offering advice on dealing with Khan in ID, and posthumously with death of Spock Prime in BEY). I imagine if any future Kelvinverse films are made, Nimoy will play a part in some capacity, even if it just a tribute to him.
The writers of ST4, as far was we know, haven’t figured that bit out. But I have, as have some writers of the Kelvin comics.
Is that the benchmark?
I voted ‘other’ as nothing on that list appeals to me at all.
Unlike most, I actually agree with you that it would be possible to generate general interest in a Romulan War movie.
I mean, Star Wars exists right? The idea at least of a war in space is accessible to an audience who aren’t steeped in Star Trek lore. Space battles make for good spectacle in sci-fi movies.
The right cast + a director that’s passionate + the right marketing… I think it’s viable. Not necessarily something I want to see, but it’s not as ‘out there’ as some seem to think.
Still probably never going to happen, but it’s not a ridiculous idea both in the 2000s and now.
It's possible. How much of the public knew who Khan was prior to TWOK? Even among Trek fans at the time I'm not sure he was being touted as a character they wanted to see in a film. Khan's profile in and out of fandom was greatly raised because of TWOK.
Sure there is. We have the box-office failure of Star Trek: Nemesis and the unpopularity and cancellation of Star Trek: Enterprise as the benchmarks of where Trek was in the early 2000's, not to mention Rick Berman's increasing unsuitability as showrunner, to think that a Romulan war movie with a cast of complete unknowns, produced by a couple of unknowns, would have gotten the amount of butts in theater seats that Abrams was able to do. Even Paramount was ambivalent about the story.
I want to see Legacy. Though I am okay with a "Legacy"-era series like say, a Star Trek: Janeway/Riker/LaForge/Worf/Sisko that also delves into the 25th century.
If the Garrett actress is good, I wouldn't be opposed to a Lost Era-series starring her. I would be more interested in a Stargazer series if James McAvoy was still willing to take on the role.
I wouldn't mind seeing a Romulan War miniseries. I'm iffy on a Birth of the Federation series.
If the Garrett actress is good, I wouldn't be opposed to a Lost Era-series starring her. I would be more interested in a Stargazer series if James McAvoy was still willing to take on the role.
I wouldn't mind seeing a Romulan War miniseries. I'm iffy on a Birth of the Federation series.
I’ve said it before: there was a time I would’ve wanted to see the Romulan War, but we’ve gotten a thoroughly good picture of “how does the Federation maintain its values (or fail to)” several times now from the Xindi, Dominion and two Klingon Wars. It wouldn’t tell us anything we don’t already know.
Babylon 5 had the right take on this. Outside of the five-year period of the series, there are at least a couple of major wars — the Telepath and Drakh Wars — whose effects we know all about, but which we never actually see. One could do stories about them, but it isn’t necessary, because we know the parts important to the story. Likewise with the Romulans: sure, we could — but what will it show us that that we haven’t already gotten?
And sure: they could create something unique about it that makes it worth seeing. But I’ve no need to see it just to see it.
Babylon 5 had the right take on this. Outside of the five-year period of the series, there are at least a couple of major wars — the Telepath and Drakh Wars — whose effects we know all about, but which we never actually see. One could do stories about them, but it isn’t necessary, because we know the parts important to the story. Likewise with the Romulans: sure, we could — but what will it show us that that we haven’t already gotten?
And sure: they could create something unique about it that makes it worth seeing. But I’ve no need to see it just to see it.
Let's be honest, though. (And I say this as a fan of Babylon 5.) We haven't seen those stories put to screen out of maintaining some sense of mystery or whatever. If B5 had been successful enough to sustain itself into the present day, we probably would have gotten shows or TV movies about the Telepath and Drakh Wars, maybe the Dilgar War, and probably even an adaptation of the Psi Corps Trilogy at some point. We would be seeing spinoffs up and down the B5 timeline.
From what I understand (and someone is welcome to correct me if I’m wrong), unlike Star Trek, the licensed tie-in works such as the B5 novels and comics are canon to the show continuity. So while things such as the Telepath War and the technomage betrayal weren’t shown on screen, the plan was to flesh out those things in the novels, which they did. So I don’t think there was any big plan to produce shows based on those premises even if they had the time and budget to do so.
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