Huh. I'm confused. That looked like an ugly Star Wars trailer, nothing "Trek" about it.
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Paramount is probably looking at ST fan demographic data and seeing they don't have many sub middle age fans.
This trailer and the academy show feel like misguided attempts to address that issue.
Of course the reason P+ Star Trek doesn't have many young viewers is likely because the shows are either too reliant on links to old Trek and/or aren't very good.
This trailer and the academy show feel like misguided attempts to address that issue.
Of course the reason P+ Star Trek doesn't have many young viewers is likely because the shows are either too reliant on links to old Trek and/or aren't very good.
You're not going to draw young viewers with a 61-year old lead and a bunch of nobodies.
Starfleet Academy kind of has the same issues. I know it wasn't in their budget to get Zendaya, or even Sidney Sweeney, but if you want a young audience, get name actors to play the young roles, not the instructors.
No young name actor with better options is going to go anywhere near Star Trek.
It's an interesting question who the most famous young actor to have ever appeared in Trek was. The series so rarely cast anyone under 30 for any roles at all.
It is an interesting question. Trek has never been particularly been pointed at children before Prodigy. Though Ella Purnell's star is starting to take off with her role in Fallout.
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This is interesting... I think technically LeVar Burton was 29 when he was cast for TNG, and he was pretty well established by that point. Aside from that, there aren't many Trek actors who were famous prior to their casting, let alone under 30.
Though I'd say his popularity is more because of The Boys than anything Star Trek-related.
Dear gods, that teaser trailer looks awful. Wow. Even if this was meant to just be a teaser, aka a series of rapid interspliced scenes that tell us only one thing: this show/film is coming soon - this was a terrible way of doing it.
Regarding the idea of a S31 series? I would have found that to be a topic that is at least interesting back when DS9 was running. Now that S31 is an organization that everyone knows about it and is just a branch of Starfleet Intelligence? Not so much. I thought S31 was more interesting as an ominous group of "patriots" that subverted the ideals of the Federation.
Regarding the idea of a S31 series? I would have found that to be a topic that is at least interesting back when DS9 was running. Now that S31 is an organization that everyone knows about it and is just a branch of Starfleet Intelligence? Not so much. I thought S31 was more interesting as an ominous group of "patriots" that subverted the ideals of the Federation.
I have very early memories of watching TOS, puts me around four or five years old. It was something that just fueled my imagination.
Probably true.
That is all the entertainment and sports industry is, at this point. I know no one works for free, at the same time, I'd like to see something that has some artistic vision beyond, "what can we mine from the past".
Since this was brought up as an issue earlier in this thread...
I'm a 40-year-old dude, so maybe I'm not the target for this. But I'm open to different takes on material. I loved Guardians of the Galaxy. I really enjoyed Deadpool and Wolverine this weekend. I'm open to things that have fun with legacy IP.
But I didn't get that vibe from the Section 31 trailer at all. It felt more like something that's trying for that energy, but trying too hard and instead comes off as stupid and silly.
Beyond that, I feel like Section 31 shouldn't be Guardians of the Galaxy. If there's an MCU equivalent tone I think it should be aiming for, it would be the Captain America movies. Those movies could be quippy and fun, but overall had a serious tone as Marvel's take on the political thriller. Those movies have an underlying theme of how far is too far to go in the name of "security" which seems exactly what a Section 31 centered piece should be about.
I'm a 40-year-old dude, so maybe I'm not the target for this. But I'm open to different takes on material. I loved Guardians of the Galaxy. I really enjoyed Deadpool and Wolverine this weekend. I'm open to things that have fun with legacy IP.
But I didn't get that vibe from the Section 31 trailer at all. It felt more like something that's trying for that energy, but trying too hard and instead comes off as stupid and silly.
Beyond that, I feel like Section 31 shouldn't be Guardians of the Galaxy. If there's an MCU equivalent tone I think it should be aiming for, it would be the Captain America movies. Those movies could be quippy and fun, but overall had a serious tone as Marvel's take on the political thriller. Those movies have an underlying theme of how far is too far to go in the name of "security" which seems exactly what a Section 31 centered piece should be about.
I tend to agree. I'm not exactly sure though what modern media would catch the attention of 5 year-old BillJ?
To me, the original Star Trek is almost mythological. It was fun, it was goofy, it was serious, it had effects that just took me to other worlds. At the center of it, to steal from another sci-fi property, Kirk, Spock and McCoy were big, damn heroes. They were cool. They proudly claimed, "America, FUCK YEAH!!!" like no other show I can think of. None of the other Trek's have ever been able to replicate that, from my point-of-view.
As in all things, other's mileage may vary.
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