What is your personal head canon?
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Anyway, head-canon.
I think Garak is the one who referred Bashir to Sloan.
I think Garak is the one who referred Bashir to Sloan.
I think that's very true, and i'm like almost damn near certain what some of the Gorn is not how most of them operate. That may be their natural state, but it is 100% not sustainable for an interstellar civilization. If this is how the Gorn naturally reproduce, they must have found another way.
The Gorn we've seen in SNW are renegade Gorn who do things the old way. The Gorn we see respond in the season finale... are like, Gorn Cops out there trying to clean up the renegades mess.
That's no more or less valid reason to like it.
That's certainly an aspect of it for me. It's not the whole thing, but I am absolutely all about some ship porn.
I'm in it for the characters as well, but I see at least some of the ships as essentially characters in their own right. I care about what happens to the Enterprise just as much, potentially if not more, than I care about happens to Dr. Crusher.
Which works if Basic humans were physically superior than other aliens. It makes no sense in universe, unless humanity was technically advanced than the rest of the galaxy, that humans defeated stronger aliens like Vulcans and telepathic Betazoids, who would know what a human was going to do before a human opened their mouth.
Ooh, new possible head-canon! Tribbles are originally native to the Gorn homeworld!
It's one of those things where it shouldn't work, but it does. Star Trek humans aren't physically superior to other races. They don't have telepathy. But there definitely something inherently special about humans in Trek.
It helps that humans in Trek exist in a galaxy of single-hat aliens. The strength of Trek humans is not being boxed in to one thing. We can beat Vulcans be being illogical and thinking outside of the box. They can't do that. We can beat Klingons by goading them into reckless attacks and tactics the shit out of them. Humans got kind of lucky that Betzaoids are just largely pacifists... there probably doesn't need to be much conquering there, when threatened they'll likely just give in.
Humans strength in Trek largely boils down to just not really having an apparent exploitable weakness. We may not the best at anything, but we're... good at everything.
Because Trek is an American (production) invention, I think, and correct me if I am wrong, there is an element that the humans in Trek are an idealised version of how Americans see themselves. Hence the UFP revolves around human (North American) culture.
The 24th century had some kind of minor version of "The Burn" later featured in Discovery's 32nd century (possibly what the Tomed Incident was). While warp travel wasn't eliminated it was greatly slowed down compared to the 23rd century. It's the only way to reconcile the stated speeds in TOS and ST5 (That Which Survives outright says the 1701 does 1,000 light years in 12 hours, they go to the center of the galaxy in TAS in ST5, etc.) and the slow speeds in TNG till new Trek (suddenly Voyager can't do 70,000 light years without taking 70 years something going by TOS math should've taken 35 days).
Somehow by Prodigy and Picard we're going at super fast speeds again (the Kazon are hopping around the galaxy for example)
Somehow by Prodigy and Picard we're going at super fast speeds again (the Kazon are hopping around the galaxy for example)
Could explain away the Kazon by the fact that with the Borg crippled they may have started using their transwarp conduits to short cut it or the end (reduction?) of the Borg threat lead to a quadrant wide technical revolution?
That doesn't explain the Protostar or Dauntless speeds hopping around the galaxy, including the Delta Quadrant, easily though
Dauntless was literally rebuilt off the fake one right? So they used the schematics for that ships warp tech.
Protostar - yeah you kind of have me there (maybe the quantum slipstream from Timeless was perfected and, similar to theories on the Excelsior's transwarp drive, just became known as warp due to being the standard method?)
I mean we can argue the warp scale of Prodigy/Picard from here to Vulcan but the point is the stated max speeds in TOS are WAY faster than in TNG, to the point this affected storylines (TAS and ST5 can go to the center of the galaxy, and suddenly in TNG they can't even go to the Gamma or Delta quadrants).
The fact is, someone in the TNG writer's bible either purposely or unintentionally ignored the rough speeds given in TOS and TAS and set a new scale that was literally 100 times slower than the old one. And there's no easy in-universe explanation for this. (Admittedly TNG was made in the 1980s where people were lucky to even have TOS on VHS, and couldn't analyze and reanalyze every line of TOS technobabble the way we can do instantly just by turning on Paramount Plus, so the TNG staff either thought we wouldn't notice or weren't aware of the inconsistency themselves)
Bearing in mind that Roddenberry wanted some distancing between TNG and TOS, so even if there was a perceived inconsistency he would have just gone with the TNG way.
Yeah but depending which warp scale we use that argument could be anything from a 5 mins chat waiting for a pint in 10 Forward to a full on pissing match ;p
Agreed though re: your overall point
i actually really really like this, especially with the relationship between our own reptiles, and the furry little rodents we feed them.
The Tribbles reproductive rate might actually make sense in this context.
Well, to be fair, the Eugenics Wars and WWIII were established to be the same thing on the TOS episode "Space Seed." It was TNG that made them into two separate events. SNW just folded them back together into a larger conflict, and added the Second American Civil War into the mix.
This is a really interesting speculation!
Yup, agreed.
Here's one... the reason Admiral Bennett talks about the Eugenics Wars as having happened "two hundred years ago" in "Doctor Bashir, I Presume" is because he had watched a log of Kirk's battle with Khan and was remembering Khan's dialog and not the historical record, much like writer Ronald D Moore 
Technically, this is not correct. Here is the line:
KIRK: Then you can check the registry.
SPOCK: No such vessel listed. Records of that period are fragmentary, however. The mid=1990s was the era of your last so-called World War.
MCCOY: The Eugenics Wars.
Notice that the number of which world war is not stated. The assumption is 3 based on the year and the fact in reality only 2 world wars are recognized.
We assume and conclude WWIII but the episode does not explicitly state this.
Now, this is interesting that the "last so-called World War" is singular, while The Eugenics Wars is plural. So, the plural Eugenics Wars when considered as a whole are recognized as a singular world war.
Someone behind the scenes at Enterprise also put this into writing, further tying WWIII with the Eugenics Wars.
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