What is your personal head canon?

[evilchumlee]

Then Legacy would be terrible for you, because the Enterprise-G is an idiotic design for that era and looks two hundred years older than it should. Don't pretend you have a leg to stand on when talking about visual continuity.

Prior to PIC, we had absolutely no idea what the Enterprise-G looked like.

The design shares some design elements from the movie era, but absolutely does not look like a movie era ship.

This is perfectly reasonable.

Now had we known what the Enterprise-G looks like, and then PIC decided to just... make it something else, yeah that's a problem.

 

[evilchumlee]

Playing into the idea of Headcanon, and feeling like I've read this before somewhere, I like the idea that the 25th century starfleet has made a conscious decision to evoke the golden age of 23rd century exploration. Largely as an effort of move away from the introverted and guarded Starfleet of the late 2380s and 2390s.

Excelsior, Stargazer, Constitution and even the Reliant class borrowed from STO reflect this, but they also seem to be evoking mid-24th century era Starships in the form of the Ross Class and Sunderland class.

It's like their way of saying to the galaxy "Hey! Remember us? Well, we're baAAck"

I would't even really put this in headcanon status because I feel like it was... implied.

 

[BillJ]

Some fan service can be good but it also can be too much.

I am someone that largely wants fan service to be something that I get for paying attention and being a fan. I want it to be something cleverly in the background, a reward for paying attention. I don't want it splooged all over the screen every moment of every episode.

I think I'm in the minority.

 

[Frontis]

In actually like the design of the Enterprise G. Cool ship

 

[Weyoun 251]

I always rooted for the Captain Worf show that never came. Or Captain Flipper, if we judge his past.

I've only seen year one in PICARD. But if Seven made Captain, she'd have to cut down on her fatalism to her co-stars. 17 ''You will fails'' in one shift tends to get on underlings.

It is a retread of the DS9 episode where Worf has to learn to not be a prick to the staff - have new super mellow Worf teach her the way and reminisce about O'Brien teaching him how to chill back on the Defiant

 

[HotRod]

The design shares some design elements from the movie era, but absolutely does not look like a movie era ship.

I suggest you contact your local ophthalmologist.

It's literally a 23rd century fan design with new warp nacelles slapped onto it. Love it or hate it, don't try and pretend it's something it's not.

 

[Citiprime]

Then Legacy would be terrible for you, because the Enterprise-G is an idiotic design for that era and looks two hundred years older than it should. Don't pretend you have a leg to stand on when talking about visual continuity.

The feeling I got from Picard is that the combination of losing Utopia Planitia and policy changes within Starfleet might be responsible for some of the recycling, and upgraded old and retro designs.

If I remember right, Matalas envisioned the Titan-A/Enterprise-G as being Riker's original Titan that's been cannibalized into a new retro-Constitution Class starship.

Spoiler: Spoilers For Prodigy's Season 2 Finale

The synth attack against Utopia Planitia and Mars causes Starfleet to suspend all exploratory missions and close Starfleet Academy. It's not inconceivable starship production and development stagnated in the interim, and Starfleet Command was forced to make due with what they already had or recycle/refurbish old designs.

I always take the return of the Enterprise-D as being symbolic in multiple ways at the end of Picard season 3. She's not only the crew's old home, but both her and her crew represents what Starfleet used to be coming to save the day.

She marks Starfleet returning to the old ways.

 

[HotRod]

The feeling I got from Picard is that the combination of losing Utopia Planitia and policy changes within Starfleet might be responsible for some of the recycling, and upgraded old and retro designs.

If I remember right, Matalas envisioned the Titan-A/Enterprise-G as being Riker's original Titan that's been cannibalized into a new retro-Constitution Class starship.

Spoiler: Spoilers For Prodigy's Season 2 Finale

The synth attack against Utopia Planitia and Mars causes Starfleet to suspend all exploratory missions and close Starfleet Academy. It's not inconceivable starship production and development stagnated in the interim, and Starfleet Command was forced to make due with what they already had or recycle/refurbish old designs.

Which still doesn't make the slightest bit of sense.

 

[fireproof78]

She marks Starfleet returning to the old ways.

Fighting against Romulans.

Ruk: Yes, the Old Ones.

 

[xenotaris]

My headcanon is that DIS, PIC, and SNW are part of a second Alternate Timeline

 

[Tiran O'Saurus]

I think I'm getting deja vu. Someone says a variant of that every day here.

 

[cooleddie74]

And made all the more confusing and funny by the fact your avatars are so similar.

 

[fireproof78]

I think I'm getting deja vu. Someone says a variant of that every day here.

I feel like timelines are just thrown around now as an excuse to try and pretend to like something.

It's not Star Trek anymore, but "is it Prime?" "Is it Kelvin?" "Well, it can be this Star Trek because (fill in the blank)?"

Like, isn't it exhausting to make up reasons to not like something? Or is it necessary for personal entertainment to conform to preconceived notions of timelines?

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

I feel like timelines are just thrown around now as an excuse to try and pretend to like something.

It's not Star Trek anymore, but "is it Prime?" "Is it Kelvin?" "Well, it can be this Star Trek because (fill in the blank)?"

Like, isn't it exhausting to make up reasons to not like something? Or is it necessary for personal entertainment to conform to preconceived notions of timelines?

I think Star Trek fans generally want to like as much Star Trek as possible, and if there are ways that they can just overlook one little obstacle to their entertainment then they will.

 

[fireproof78]

I think Star Trek fans generally want to like as much Star Trek as possible, and if there are ways that they can just overlook one little obstacle to their entertainment then they will.

I use to think that.

I don't believe that as much anymore. Haven't seen Abrams and the writers on Enterprise were accused of "heresy" on another board.

 

[Shawnster]

Like, isn't it exhausting to make up reasons to not like something? Or is it necessary for personal entertainment to conform to preconceived notions of timelines?

For some, the latter. It is necessary for their entertainment to conform to x, y, or z. Sometimes that is preconceived notions but other times it's to conform to established lore.

The lack of conformity takes them out of the experience.

 

[fireproof78]

For some, the latter. It is necessary for their entertainment to conform to x, y, or z. Sometimes that is preconceived notions but other times it's to conform to established lore.

The lack of conformity takes them out of the experience.

Fascinating.

 

[IRW Bloodwing]

I think I'm getting deja vu. Someone says a variant of that every day here.

Well, in the case of SNW, the producers have actually admitted that it's a new timeline.

 

[fireproof78]

Well, in the case of SNW, the producers have actually admitted that it's a new timeline.

More that the timeline has been tinkered with. A modified timeline.

 

[Lord Garth]

Twitter is stuggling with a black man cast in Academy, I think at this point anything and everything is divisive with the ultra-toxic fan base.

Yeah, I read some comments, not on Twitter but on Facebook, about how ugly the kids were who were cast. That was beyond pale. I'd like to see what these people look like, who are judging. I, at least, show what I look like. They don't. (Yes, I'm aware I'm dressed like a jester in my current avatar. It was for a project I was involved in.)

More to the point, if they're attacking the actors for their looks, they'll attack SFA for anything.

Right off the bat, I had two additional thoughts:

1. "I have no respect for these people, if this is what they'll stoop to."

2. "Here we go again... "