You would be the perfect person for me to do a podcast with, lol. I don't think I've ever found someone as diametrically opposite to me on Trek who doesn't piss me off.
Rewriting Picard from the start
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You would be the perfect person for me to do a podcast with, lol. I don't think I've ever found someone as diametrically opposite to me on Trek who doesn't piss me off.
You haven't seen my face yet so don't count your tribbles before they breed...?
Or something.
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This is one of the funniest things I've ever read on this forum, haha.
Well, there's something I'm missing, I guess
Just a little joke, my friend.
Everything reminds me of a movie line, Garfield comic, or obscure TV show line. My default mode is sarcastic.
2379 (post-Nemesis)
Picard realized that he missed Crusher when she left for Starfleet Medical. He also realizes that he has less time ahead of him than behind and that he's had two full and lengthy commands. He accepts a second offer to become commandant of Starfleet Academy and asks Beverly to marry him. Despite the years since their neural link, she reveals she's been wondering what took him so long.
I promise this was an idea I had years before Picard: Geordi realizes that the only way to restore Data from his backup to B-4 is with a more advanced android. The only Soong type android that fits the bill is Lore. Geordi restores Lore and offers him a choice: continued non-existence or the chance to make up for his past misdeeds and give his brother a second chance at life. Lore agrees, and while he is overwritten entirely by Data's matrix, Data retains Lore's memories. He also gains access to emotions as a result of inhabiting Lore's body and discovers that Lore also had a subroutine which, when activated, allows him to appear as if he's aging like a human.
Data takes time to process his rebirth and new emotions. Worf is promoted to captain of the Enterprise-E. Riker and Troi continue on the Titan, welcoming children in a few years' time.
2399
The Picards, Rikers, LaForges, Worf, and Data gather for a reunion celebrating the 30th anniversary of their first voyage together as the command crew of the Enterprise-D. Their children are also present, including Jean-Luc and Beverly's son, Robert Rene William Picard, Will and Deanna's children, Jean-Luc Kyle Thomas Riker and Kestra Lwaxana Riker, and Geordi and Leah's children, Alanna, Bret, and Sydney. Bret and Alandra are Starfleet cadets along with Robert, Jean-Luc, while Kestra and Sydney are pursuing different career paths.
The reunion coincides with the maiden voyage of the Enterprise-F, under the command of Captain Data. The ship launches from Starbase One for a short voyage to Alpha Centauri where additional crew will be onboarded. Once the ship jumps to warp, however, something malfunctions in the warp core. The engines create a tear in space that pulls the Enterprise-F inside. The ship is deposited into a strange dimension that resembles one of the distant galaxies visited by the Enterprise-D in "Where No One Has Gone Before."
Of course, the engines overload, and the ship is stranded. Generations new and old must work together to determine what really happened (hint: Q) and overcome threats to their bodies and very souls that no one could ever imagine. Many old faces appear in the process, and perhaps Travelers stop by to offer assistance.
Picard realized that he missed Crusher when she left for Starfleet Medical. He also realizes that he has less time ahead of him than behind and that he's had two full and lengthy commands. He accepts a second offer to become commandant of Starfleet Academy and asks Beverly to marry him. Despite the years since their neural link, she reveals she's been wondering what took him so long.
I promise this was an idea I had years before Picard: Geordi realizes that the only way to restore Data from his backup to B-4 is with a more advanced android. The only Soong type android that fits the bill is Lore. Geordi restores Lore and offers him a choice: continued non-existence or the chance to make up for his past misdeeds and give his brother a second chance at life. Lore agrees, and while he is overwritten entirely by Data's matrix, Data retains Lore's memories. He also gains access to emotions as a result of inhabiting Lore's body and discovers that Lore also had a subroutine which, when activated, allows him to appear as if he's aging like a human.
Data takes time to process his rebirth and new emotions. Worf is promoted to captain of the Enterprise-E. Riker and Troi continue on the Titan, welcoming children in a few years' time.
2399
The Picards, Rikers, LaForges, Worf, and Data gather for a reunion celebrating the 30th anniversary of their first voyage together as the command crew of the Enterprise-D. Their children are also present, including Jean-Luc and Beverly's son, Robert Rene William Picard, Will and Deanna's children, Jean-Luc Kyle Thomas Riker and Kestra Lwaxana Riker, and Geordi and Leah's children, Alanna, Bret, and Sydney. Bret and Alandra are Starfleet cadets along with Robert, Jean-Luc, while Kestra and Sydney are pursuing different career paths.
The reunion coincides with the maiden voyage of the Enterprise-F, under the command of Captain Data. The ship launches from Starbase One for a short voyage to Alpha Centauri where additional crew will be onboarded. Once the ship jumps to warp, however, something malfunctions in the warp core. The engines create a tear in space that pulls the Enterprise-F inside. The ship is deposited into a strange dimension that resembles one of the distant galaxies visited by the Enterprise-D in "Where No One Has Gone Before."
Of course, the engines overload, and the ship is stranded. Generations new and old must work together to determine what really happened (hint: Q) and overcome threats to their bodies and very souls that no one could ever imagine. Many old faces appear in the process, and perhaps Travelers stop by to offer assistance.
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Hi, it's been a while. A month-and-a-half since I've posted in this forum to be exact.
As much as I would've liked to have seen more episodes of Picard, I can't argue with this point.
The one that I hoped when Picard season 1 came, was that Jeanluc actually has a son / daughter, and the story won't only involved Jeanluc but also his family "Picard". Well, it came with season 3. so I don't have anything to complain with the series.
Absolutely this - in my head season two is autumn 2400, and season 3 is April 2401. Nothing else makes any sense to me.
I like so much of what season one does, I just want to fix the ending so that the metaphor actually lands.
Instead of Starfleet flying to the rescue in the finale, it's Laris and Zhaban and Zani and a fleet of Romulans swooping in to stand with Picard and oppose the Zhat Vash. The thing that infuriates me most about this season is that it's setup as a parable about the importance of helping refugees, yet every plot reveal reinforces the opposite view. Once all is said and done, every calamity of the season was caused by attempting to help the Romulans. If the Federation had simply left them to die, everyone else would have been much better off. There would have been no massacre on Mars. There would have been no banning of cybernetic life. Riker and Troi's son would have lived. There would have been no Zhat Vash infiltrators corrupting Starfleet. Hugh would have lived. Icheb probably would have lived. Just on and on. Every tragedy of the season is ultimately caused by helping refugees, who really were just bringing murderous thugs and criminals with them.
If they wanted the refugees to ultimately be the threat, the way to have that land would have been to also make the refugees the salvation, and to have them show up, when their host society has failed to do so, to save everyone else from this apocalyptic threat.
Instead of Starfleet flying to the rescue in the finale, it's Laris and Zhaban and Zani and a fleet of Romulans swooping in to stand with Picard and oppose the Zhat Vash. The thing that infuriates me most about this season is that it's setup as a parable about the importance of helping refugees, yet every plot reveal reinforces the opposite view. Once all is said and done, every calamity of the season was caused by attempting to help the Romulans. If the Federation had simply left them to die, everyone else would have been much better off. There would have been no massacre on Mars. There would have been no banning of cybernetic life. Riker and Troi's son would have lived. There would have been no Zhat Vash infiltrators corrupting Starfleet. Hugh would have lived. Icheb probably would have lived. Just on and on. Every tragedy of the season is ultimately caused by helping refugees, who really were just bringing murderous thugs and criminals with them.
If they wanted the refugees to ultimately be the threat, the way to have that land would have been to also make the refugees the salvation, and to have them show up, when their host society has failed to do so, to save everyone else from this apocalyptic threat.
I really like the core idea of season 1 and think it's an interesting jumping off point for Picard as a character.
What happens when someone who has devoted their life to certain values in defense of a society they passionately believed in feels alienated from it after that society shifts? I really liked the idea of well what if Starfleet and the Federation turned inward, and Picard and people like him who served in a government that believed in exploration, humanitarian outreach, and the nature of Starfleet being protractive involvement were all of a sudden told that it wasn't going to be that way anymore. In season 1 episode 1, when Admiral Clancy chews Picard out in her office, she chillingly claims that Starfleet and the Federation have the authority to choose which species live and which species die, and have to make those sort of choices for the greater good. And if that means watching an entire species burn up in a supernova, so be it.
That fundamentally conflicts with the version of Starfleet and Federation that Picard believes in.
To me, the problem with season 1 is that the story externalizes that conflict. Instead of it being a contrast between Picard and what the Federation and Starfleet have turned into, they dump all of the responsibility for these changes onto the Zhat Vash. They become the Scooby Doo villains who get all of the blame for everything, instead of there being a direct conflict between Picard's values and the 25th century version of Starfleet. We're told Starfleet and the Federation is going to change at the end of the season based on the events, and it just comes off as unearned.
This is something I would love to see but I wonder whether Isa Briones would want to do it after the way the S1 cast was dispensed with. I know money is money, but effectively the character of Soji reached her conclusion on 2.01 and when I watch her as Kore Soong I can't help noticing she seems to put less into her performance. Plus Data would probably want to meet all his Offspring (caps intentional) on Coppelius.
That might be true, but these people also wouldn't know about Raffi, Laris, or what was going on with Seven, Troi, or Riker either. I can understand wanting to get new viewers, but at the same time, to pay off for people who had been with ST: Picard from the first episode on, I would've been fine with having Soji involved in the third season (Jurati as well, and more of a mention of Rios). Doing that might also have spurred new viewers to go back and look at the first two seasons.
Aiming your show's third season at people who never saw the first two seasons is a deeply questionable choice.
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