Because it's a heavily weighted poll that's self selected for people who like Discovery in the first place.
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 5x10 - "Life, Itself"
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No! Not Scribbs!!! I adore Scribbs!
The focus of my question is the "7" part. 7 is slightly above average for me. It's good, but not great.
In order for Discovery to actually be bad to me it would have to routinely score 3 to 5.
To illustrate my point:
They had years to write a story that would explain Calypso and they never did. So now they end the series with Burnham just sending the ship there with no explanation to the audience? It has to be the laziest writing ever.
The progenitors turning out to not really be progenitors is a lame cop out to not have to provide any answers and makes the whole season feel meaningless. It also retcons the original TNG episode.
The revelation about Kovich doesn't really mean anything now that the series is over and feels like just another way to crowbar some other piece of existing canon into the show.
All in all, a pretty terrible finale. at least its over.
The progenitors turning out to not really be progenitors is a lame cop out to not have to provide any answers and makes the whole season feel meaningless. It also retcons the original TNG episode.
The revelation about Kovich doesn't really mean anything now that the series is over and feels like just another way to crowbar some other piece of existing canon into the show.
All in all, a pretty terrible finale. at least its over.
Ferengi take over a Galaxy class starship is the laziest writing ever.
Yes, thankfully. The gun is taken away from the heads of everyone who had to watch it, forced at gunpoint to dare watch a TV show. No off button in sight.
It wasn't bad, but it wasn't great. It just... was. I feel like suddenly they started cramming in ideas at the last possible moment that will now never get followed up on. But I didn't hate it. I actually liked the flash forward. But the more I think about it, especially with the Breen season arc that ultimately felt pointless in the end just like the season three and four season arcs, the whole thing just feels like it was less than the sum of its parts. Ultimately Discovery bows out with plenty of style but very little substance.
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It sounds as though you misunderstood this part.
The Progenitors are still the Progenitors - nothing has been retconned. They still found themselves alone in the universe and so seeded the varied life we see in Trek. They still left the clues in our DNA seen in TNG The Chase to reveal this.
All that is revealed in this episode is that the technology wasn't theirs - it was left behind by the people who created them and the Progenitors found it and used it in turn to create us.
I thought this added depth to the Star Trek lore by implying a cyclical pattern of creation and discovery, akin to themes found in certain religious and philosophical narratives.
The ability to "Spore Jump" another vessel in between your vessels is a HUGE Game Changer like technology in the right hands.
They just came before and used what they found.
The Progenitors aren't the "Originators" of Sentient/Sapient life.
They just came before and used what they found.
They are the originators of the current sentient life in the universe.
Whomever created the Progenitors created the Progenitors alone. The Progenitors, lonely, travelled the universe and 'found no one like them', they did, however find their creators technology and seeded 'us'. Burnham understood this and decided there was already enough IDIC in the universe and so let the technology go.
So...one might call their technology "The god thing?"
*runs away*
*runs away*
Dumb thoughts (I really don't want to discuss this and Discovery as a whole):
- Culber seemed to have more chemistry with Book than he ever did with Statmets.
- Trek fans and the whole need to connect everything have a lot to answer for with that whole Zora thing
- I think it was too convenient that the Progenitors simply couldn't resurrect L'ak
- Saru rocked that wedding garb and Doug Jones has done a lot with very little
- Do we get a Breen Chronicles series to document their adventures back?
- Did Asha get namedropped more than the whole bridge crew for five seasons in just a couple of episodes. I keep hearing Cornershop in my head, gotta go dig out that song on Youtube...
- Kovich/Daniels? I'll accept it...
Are we sure that's not Porthos?
- Culber seemed to have more chemistry with Book than he ever did with Statmets.
- Trek fans and the whole need to connect everything have a lot to answer for with that whole Zora thing
- I think it was too convenient that the Progenitors simply couldn't resurrect L'ak
- Saru rocked that wedding garb and Doug Jones has done a lot with very little
- Do we get a Breen Chronicles series to document their adventures back?
- Did Asha get namedropped more than the whole bridge crew for five seasons in just a couple of episodes. I keep hearing Cornershop in my head, gotta go dig out that song on Youtube...
- Kovich/Daniels? I'll accept it...
You left out my fave one!
The Gristle Gun from David Cronenberg's eXistenZ.
Are we sure that's not Porthos?
That's pretty impressive. How shall they answer for it?
I'll accept written apologies.
I think that was the original plan until they were told there would be no sixth season. Everything after that, the time jump, was basically last-minute addition, IIRC...
https://trekmovie.com/2024/05/30/re...covery-pulls-it-all-together-for-life-itself/
The Trekmovie review states that Leto's name wasn't mentioned in dialogue - but am pretty sure it was when I rewatched the epilogue.
The Trekmovie review states that Leto's name wasn't mentioned in dialogue - but am pretty sure it was when I rewatched the epilogue.
I guess that's a symptom of the cancellation being announced right at the end of filming .
Considering how little notice they had, I think they did OK.
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