In fairness, both of those things were just lying around at some point in the past. He could have found the moment where people stopped caring about them and grabbed them then.
I see it. DSC was too conservative a show for its entire run, wasn't it?
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In fairness, both of those things were just lying around at some point in the past. He could have found the moment where people stopped caring about them and grabbed them then.
I see it. DSC was too conservative a show for its entire run, wasn't it?
Both TNG and LD have basically said these types of "hoarders" are bad people though, so I hope he wasn't just grave robbing or stealing stuff using time travel. But we're not supposed to think too much about it.
I really think the season arcs just constrained them too much. Rebuilding the Federation was the perfect excuse to explore what has changed in 1000 years, instead they just skipped all of that entirely... it's just an odd choice.
I have a theory that they knew they were on to something with the potential for a Pike show when they were finessing season 2 (that especially would explain the last scene of S2) and they steered S3 away from a conventional exploration vibe
If you move them to the furthest end of the Galactic Barrier, it's still quite a journey home.
When USS Discovery was at risk of having to travel back the long way, I estimated it would take them ~ 1 year to get home (Not bad compared to what the USS Voyager had to deal with).
Maybe the Dreadnought isn't nearly as fast as USS Discovery-A?
I believed I wouldn't see this episode this early but happy I did.
That was one for the ages. It was great at every level. Included some surprises, and a few things that were expected but not quite the way they were expected. Some things had to be answered of course.
I think there's so much to talk about I'll probably do it in multiple posts, but I think we may have a new entry for best franchise finale.
A few quickies before I turn in:
There was a Breen conflict but befitting the TNG era parallels this season, it wasn't the centerpiece. Excellent choice...
Instead there was an attempt at diplomacy...it worked for as long as needed.
Within a split second, I knew where they were going with the Progenitor reveal (the episode scores a 10 for having engagement with the Progenitors at all)...by leaving the creation (infinite creation) open, they left any real creation open to a "God" or for whatever placeholder you want to put in there. I'm not a believer but it's a good creative choice. Profound and brilliant.
Moll didn't get what she wanted. A rather large surprise. Another great choice.
The coda(s): Unbelievable. My first Kovich choice was Future Guy, I sort of lost hope during the week we'd find out. This answer is close, and who's to say Daniels isn't a different version of himself as Future Guy.
More Calypso. Again, thought we had that answer. Glad to see my original opinion was correct. Thanks Discovery.
The future of the future of the future: Perfect.
11 out of 10
That was one for the ages. It was great at every level. Included some surprises, and a few things that were expected but not quite the way they were expected. Some things had to be answered of course.
I think there's so much to talk about I'll probably do it in multiple posts, but I think we may have a new entry for best franchise finale.
A few quickies before I turn in:
There was a Breen conflict but befitting the TNG era parallels this season, it wasn't the centerpiece. Excellent choice...
Instead there was an attempt at diplomacy...it worked for as long as needed.
Within a split second, I knew where they were going with the Progenitor reveal (the episode scores a 10 for having engagement with the Progenitors at all)...by leaving the creation (infinite creation) open, they left any real creation open to a "God" or for whatever placeholder you want to put in there. I'm not a believer but it's a good creative choice. Profound and brilliant.
Moll didn't get what she wanted. A rather large surprise. Another great choice.
The coda(s): Unbelievable. My first Kovich choice was Future Guy, I sort of lost hope during the week we'd find out. This answer is close, and who's to say Daniels isn't a different version of himself as Future Guy.
More Calypso. Again, thought we had that answer. Glad to see my original opinion was correct. Thanks Discovery.
The future of the future of the future: Perfect.
11 out of 10
Could have made that clearer. The galaxy is only 1000 lightyears thick. You are never that far away from it.
This is probably my own weird nitpick, but I found it totally unbelievable Kovitch/Daniels had Sisko’s baseball, without there possibly being a very dark implication about Bajor’s future, or maybe implying that Bajoran society has totally changed away from a religion with the Prophets.
Yes, Kira kept it at DS9, seen both in “What You Leave Behind” and Lower Decks. But I have to believe the Bajorans would see it as a holy relic over time. It’s a significant symbolic object that was used by the Emissary, that had meaning to him and that he left at the station as a promise to them (and Dukat) that he would return.
You’re telling me the Bajorans are ok with letting Daniels have it to put in a case instead of keeping it themselves to preserve? It would be like the Vatican letting some dude keep the crucifixion cross in his office instead of preserving it in Rome.
Although, maybe it isn’t THE baseball. Just another one that Sisko had at some point lol.
Yes, Kira kept it at DS9, seen both in “What You Leave Behind” and Lower Decks. But I have to believe the Bajorans would see it as a holy relic over time. It’s a significant symbolic object that was used by the Emissary, that had meaning to him and that he left at the station as a promise to them (and Dukat) that he would return.
You’re telling me the Bajorans are ok with letting Daniels have it to put in a case instead of keeping it themselves to preserve? It would be like the Vatican letting some dude keep the crucifixion cross in his office instead of preserving it in Rome.
Although, maybe it isn’t THE baseball. Just another one that Sisko had at some point lol.
Not gonna lie, as an ENT fan the big twist in this episode made me smile. A lot.
There was probably an ENT reference on those shelves we didn't get to see in close-up.
He had Porthos under his desk...
Now it makes Kovich's lectures about the Temporal Wars in Season 3 that much more understandable. He WAS in the Temporal Wars and had traveled through time.
“I know that dog!”
I mean, Daniels was an ENT reference, wasn’t he?
Well...yeah. But modern streaming Trek loves its background props so who knows....
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