What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

[Cr0sis21]

I don't mind Neelix at all as a character, which may be controversial. He's a magnificently flawed character - petty, thin-skinned, insecure as all hell, papering over a lifetime worth of trauma and existential dread. He has the sort of complexity that other Trek characters dream of.

Yes. And the couple of times Voyager focused on this, MAN, those were powerful episodes.
But alas, they just wanted to make the guy with the silly costume and nasally voice be funny all the time.
What a waste.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

"DS9" eventually poked some truly amusing fun though, with their "Little Green Men" episode.

I wonder what would have happened if Quark and company had become stuck in the past.

At least Odo could have survived. He could have shapeshifted into a different breed of dog and become London!

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Hey, it would have at least explained how London could do things like drive a car, pilot a balloon, etc.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Of the five "TNG" episodes Mrs. Fontana was involved in, my two personal favorites are "Encounter at Farpoint" (just because I love the pilot so much), and "Too Short A Season" (because it illustrates fairly well, humanity's near-obsession with youth).

I believe it's "Ms/Miss Fontana".

 

[Moviefan2k4]

I don't mind Neelix at all as a character, which may be controversial. He's a magnificently flawed character - petty, thin-skinned, insecure as all hell, papering over a lifetime worth of trauma and existential dread. He has the sort of complexity that other Trek characters dream of.

The only issue with Neelix is that, for some reason, the EPs thought he was funny, when, of course, he was not. His relationship with Kes was incredibly ill-thought-out, though. It seems like it was created for the pilot, and then the writers realized after that they fucked up tremendously by having this creepy middle-aged dude who was "dating" a two-year old, and walked it right back. Like, they had separate quarters on the ship, and Elogium seemed to strongly infer they had never boned. There was very little sign they has anything beyond a platonic relationship, other than Neelix's jealousy regarding Tom Paris.

I thought there were plenty of instances where Neelix showed a great deal of humor. Much of this was in his capacity as the ship's cook, which he realized no one really needed but did it anyway because he wanted to be of service. I loved "State of Flux", where Seska raids the kitchen and thinks she's escaped. But when she tells Chakotay about it, his communicator goes off, and Neelix's level of fury over the situation was comedy gold. haven't seen it in years, so I don't remember the exact dialogue, but it was something like this..

Chakotay: "Chakotay."
Neelix: "Commander, someone has raided my kitchen, stealing food from their crewmates! And I think I know just who it was!"
Chakotay: "Thank you Neelix, I'm aware of the situation."
Neelix: "It was Seska, wasn't it?! I want her punished immediately! And if you'd like a personal recommendation..."
Chakotay: "That won't be necessary, Neelix. I'll handle it - Chakotay out."

That entire scene still makes me laugh.

As for Neelix's relationship with Kes, I think it was handled respectfully. Most of Ethan and Jennifer's scenes on the show were well-balanced, and it was mostly when he and Robert McNeill started arguing, that the tension level went up. As for "Elogium", I think the emotion and dramatic aspects of it were very well-done. They addressed the subject of pregnancy very tastefully, expecting most viewers would already be aware of the sexual component so they didn't have to show it. Besides, there's no logical reason to assume that procreation works that much differently in the 24th century, versus what was then the 20th.

 

[Moviefan2k4]

I believe it's "Ms/Miss Fontana".

I read online that "Mrs." originated as a contraction of the honorific "Mistress" (the feminine of "Mister" or "Master"), which was originally applied to both married and unmarried women in the upper class. Apparently, the split between "Mrs." for married and "Miss" for unmarried began during the 17th century, but it was not reliable until well into the 19th century.

With all of this in mind, D.C. Fontana did marry visual effects artist Dennis Skotak, in 1981. So unless they were divorced by 1987, I think "Mrs." would be appropriate.

 

[Macintosh]

With all of this in mind, D.C. Fontana did marry visual effects artist Dennis Skotak, in 1981. So unless they were divorced by 1987, I think "Mrs." would be appropriate.

Since she's not married to Mr Fontana, no it isn't.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I read online that "Mrs." originated as a contraction of the honorific "Mistress" (the feminine of "Mister" or "Master"), which was originally applied to both married and unmarried women in the upper class. Apparently, the split between "Mrs." for married and "Miss" for unmarried began during the 17th century, but it was not reliable until well into the 19th century.

With all of this in mind, D.C. Fontana did marry visual effects artist Dennis Skotak, in 1981. So unless they were divorced by 1987, I think "Mrs." would be appropriate.

I think your first paragraph disagrees.

 

[cooleddie74]

I just call her D.C. or D.C. Fontana. That's what I've always known her as. "Miss Fontana" or "Mrs. Fontana" almost never come to mind. That's how I roll.

 

[Mytran]

Since she's not married to Mr Fontana, no it isn't.

Maybe that usage was true once upon a time, but no longer!
https://www.minted.com/wedding-ideas/how-to-use-miss-ms-mrs

MRS.
Let’s start with the easy one: Mrs. “Mrs.” is the proper title for a married woman whether she has taken her spouse’s last name or not. This was not always the case–you used to only use Mrs. if you were taking your husband’s first and last name– but times have changed! If you know the woman is married and you want to use a title or they use the title, “Mrs.” is the way to go.

 

[Moviefan2k4]

Since she's not married to Mr Fontana, no it isn't.

Even though many wives willingly adopt their husband's last name, its not usually considered a requirement anymore.

 

[Henoch]

Even though many wives willingly adopt their husband's last name, its not usually considered a requirement anymore.

My first and second wife took my last name but my third and second wife did not. Figure that one out.

Spoiler: Wives

I remarried my second wife and the second time she did not take my last name.

 

[Forbin]

Possible controversial take: I'll watch the worst Ferengi episode over any of the Neelix-centered episodes that Voyager did.

I mean no offense towards Ethan Phillips, but I think the entire conception of that character was off from the beginning. I vividly remember reading a TV Guide article before Voyager's premiere where they were predicting Neelix to be the big standout character for the show, but I remember having the same annoyed feeling that Tuvok suppresses every time Neelix appeared on-screen.

I remember that article!! I also remember thinking it was pretty silly to predict who would be a breakout character before the show even aired.

 

[Forbin]

I know Trekkies will argue about anything, but a 1/2 page of posts delving into the origins and use of "Mrs" is a new one.

 

[drt]

I know Trekkie will argue about anything, but a 1/2 page of posts delving into the origins and use of "Mrs" is a new one.

The only thing Trekkies like more than Star Trek is pedantry.

 

[BK613]

The only thing Trekkies like more than Star Trek is pedantry.

Well, if the ones that post here are any indication anyway, most definitely myself included.

 

[Moviefan2k4]

The only thing Trekkies like more than Star Trek is pedantry.

Some of them seem to like circular arguments, even more than that.

 

[Commander Troi]

Maybe that usage was true once upon a time, but no longer!
https://www.minted.com/wedding-ideas/how-to-use-miss-ms-mrs

I didn't know that, but I still prefer Ms. My marital status is nobody's business but the IRS.

 

[Malicia]

I didn't know that, but I still prefer Ms. My marital status is nobody's business but the IRS.

I always use Miss unless the person has already used Mrs in an email or face to face introduction. Even if I see them wearing a wedding band I’ll use Miss and allow them to correct me if they prefer Mrs. I vaguely remember being told at school that is the preferred etiquette.

 

[Shawnster]

I always use Miss unless the person has already used Mrs in an email or face to face introduction. Even if I see them wearing a wedding band I’ll use Miss and allow them to correct me if they prefer Mrs. I vaguely remember being told at school that is the preferred etiquette.

I was taught to use Ms when marital status was unknown. Mrs for married, Miss for single, Ms (pronounced miz) as a neutral term.

If course, I don't think I've ever experienced that in practice, despite what I was taught.

 

[BK613]

Three terms. And yet only one term for men, married or not. Maybe we should just abandoned the anachronism of using the three terms?
Regardless, it's D. C. Fontana or just Fontana for me. Why would the marital status of such an accomplished professional matter?