Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 5x01 - "Red Directive"
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He couldn't have been a genuine Soong type.
Because he wasn't played by Brent Spiner
I think the Klingon cloaking device in Fred’s shop is the exact same prop from Picard Season 3. Discovery filmed after Pic S3 finished production, so they would have had access to it.
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We saw a couple in the Picard Season 1 as well on the synth planet.
Fred almost looked like he could be a family member of the Soongs, so...
Wait, we're yet to meet an actual Soong that doesn't look like Spiner either. Scratch that.
But joke's aside, there was a bit of a resemblance, almost what I would expect Data's actor in a fan production to look like.
Wait, we're yet to meet an actual Soong that doesn't look like Spiner either. Scratch that.
But joke's aside, there was a bit of a resemblance, almost what I would expect Data's actor in a fan production to look like.
Fleeting thoughts from watching it just now:
VFX are goddamn incredible so far! Loved that the use of the AR Wall wasn’t as distractingly obvious as it had been last season.
As is tradition for Disco, there’s some weird pacing issues throughout the episode. The drunk and flirting Tilly scene just landed with a thud in the middle of the moving plot in a way I didn’t care for.
Captain Rayner is delightful so far. We needed some crotchety energy in the show, so I dig it.
And from watching the “This season on” promo:
VFX are goddamn incredible so far! Loved that the use of the AR Wall wasn’t as distractingly obvious as it had been last season.
As is tradition for Disco, there’s some weird pacing issues throughout the episode. The drunk and flirting Tilly scene just landed with a thud in the middle of the moving plot in a way I didn’t care for.
Captain Rayner is delightful so far. We needed some crotchety energy in the show, so I dig it.
And from watching the “This season on” promo:
That is definitely the Enterprise in the nebula. I could see 1701 on the sauce. However, putting that together with the episode coming up called “Mirrors,” and the Terran Empire logos we see in the backgrounds of the shootout in sickbay, it’s the ISS Enterprise. I wonder how the hell it pulled a reverse Defiant?
He couldn't make the "Biological Navigator" aspect work, not that the drive itself didn't work.
The question is with the advanced computers of the 31st century, even localized computer jumping should be pretty accurate for short distance jumping, that would allows StarFleet to have a unprecedented tactical advantage in STL/FTL & local area combat.
You don't have to go to far to find it useful.
Imagine having a Tactical Jumping radius of an entire Light-Second.
That's HUGE for local area combat in 3D space.
Also finding volunteers who want to get genetically modified to be a Biological Navigator should've been brought up as a option.
But that's my solution for my 26th century Head Cannon where Paul Stamets brings the tech along with other future Tech to early 25th century and has the tech spread amongst StarFleet by the 26th century as a standard feature of all StarFleet ships.
Even if you can't long distance jump, you can always do local tactical jumps, just wait for the biological navigator to come on board if you need long range jumping.
When L’ak takes off his helmet, his face seems to morph a bit. Like it changed shape to fit in the helmet
You mean Romulan? No
He wasn't from the 26th century, he just said he hadn't encountered a romulan puzzle box since the 26th century. He was most likely older than that. Lore also had super speed and strength, but we never really see him use it apart from one instance where he throws soong and another where he chokes Picard. He much preferred using subterfuge, lackey's and would try to escape when his plans went to shit. Also it's the 32nd century there are probably plenty of weapons capable of killing synths.
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I thought this wasn't a bad opener, but I can't say I loved it. I think there was too much action in the third act, and I would've rather they held back on some of that to set up more of the character relationships/dynamics. Though I guess the creators really wanted to grab people with a fast and furious first episode.
I did like how a lot of this episode was directed. It gave the episode a sense of momentum. Costuming, aesthetics, and so forth still look great. SMG wears her braids very well. I liked how they brought Book back into the story, and I enjoy seeing the chemistry between Burnham and Book. I liked that the episode also gave us more Saru and T'Rina. I've seen praise for Rennie's captain, and while I like him as an actor, I'm not there yet to declare him as Jellico or Shaw level. I liked this episode's nods to the past.
What I also didn't care as much for was putting action over story, and the too hard attempts to be light and quippy. I also thought some of the special effects looked too fake, which was surprisingly because I have often loved Discovery's special effects. The big climactic scene reminded me of J.J. Abrams Trek (and perhaps the tone/feel of the episode overall now that I think about it, was like Abrams Trek).
When I think about it, I rank the first episode of each Discovery season in the order they came out.
I did like how a lot of this episode was directed. It gave the episode a sense of momentum. Costuming, aesthetics, and so forth still look great. SMG wears her braids very well. I liked how they brought Book back into the story, and I enjoy seeing the chemistry between Burnham and Book. I liked that the episode also gave us more Saru and T'Rina. I've seen praise for Rennie's captain, and while I like him as an actor, I'm not there yet to declare him as Jellico or Shaw level. I liked this episode's nods to the past.
When Burnham mentioned missing her saxophone lesson, I was hoping this would provide a way to include a holographic Riker. I wish she had said trombone to really get me hopeful.
While I thought the episode started strong, it did start to lose its way a bit. I thought the Tilly flirtation scene was too drawn out, and the talking about relationships instead of the matter at hand too much didn't work for me. I also didn't think it was necessary to include two new bridge officers-they looked new to me-instead of giving those lines to established characters. It's the final season for crying out loud.
What I also didn't care as much for was putting action over story, and the too hard attempts to be light and quippy. I also thought some of the special effects looked too fake, which was surprisingly because I have often loved Discovery's special effects. The big climactic scene reminded me of J.J. Abrams Trek (and perhaps the tone/feel of the episode overall now that I think about it, was like Abrams Trek).
When I think about it, I rank the first episode of each Discovery season in the order they came out.
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Fred: when you want your own Data but have to go on Wish.com.
There was so much character moments, and development, that I was surprised.
Action over story?
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We see the Enterprise firing its weapons later in the teaser. It is definitely a ship from the 23rd century, or possibly the 25th century, when considering the Constitution III-class.
I tend to extend the Soong-type moniker to any android developed from Soong tech, i.e. Data, Lore, but also Picard, Soji, and Fred.
I was just joking about the amount of excuses Trek has used to keep Spiner in a job.
Looks to me to be the SNW Enterprise as we know it. In this shot you can see the registry, 1701. And the prefix appears to be three letters long and ending in C, so I assume NCC-1701.
(although some productions are known to be tricky these days and change/hide minor things for trailers so who can say for sure what the registry will be in the final episode it appears in)
(although some productions are known to be tricky these days and change/hide minor things for trailers so who can say for sure what the registry will be in the final episode it appears in)
Oh ffs, the Romulan ship is just Discovery sets
FRED! I like Fred.
Oh. Fred is dead.
So many cheesy quips.
Nice bike ride... couldn't they just beam ahead to the baddie's ship and skip it? Shame they didn't think of it.
Oh yay, they saved the market from the catastrophe that wouldn't have happened if not for them!
What are they after? We see Trekcore screencaps of "The Chase" and are told about a great treasure... based on what? They're extinct. Gone. Dead. There's no hint they have/had some super technology.
FRED! I like Fred.
Oh. Fred is dead.
So many cheesy quips.
Nice bike ride... couldn't they just beam ahead to the baddie's ship and skip it? Shame they didn't think of it.
Oh yay, they saved the market from the catastrophe that wouldn't have happened if not for them!
What are they after? We see Trekcore screencaps of "The Chase" and are told about a great treasure... based on what? They're extinct. Gone. Dead. There's no hint they have/had some super technology.
He's a (likely Coppelius) android built Altan Soong.
Review: Great premiere! I like the connection to the Chase, an episode that was deserving of a follow-up. Great action that didn't overstay it's welcome, and perhaps some of the best dialogue written for Discovery so far.
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