Spoilers Starship Design in Star Trek: Picard

[USS Artorius]

A ship's function is in service to the story. Some garner more aesthetic pleasure but that affection usually doesn't come unless the characters care.

Yeah I totally agree with that. I think Riker should have made a couple more comments on how the Titan A is basically an entirely new ship and Geordi could have made a quip about it looking so similar to the Shangri-La. It doesnt really add up to 'caring' but it would have helped put a bandade over some of the inconsistencies in the writing, in particular Picard calling the A a refit, and having the crew use some sort of tool or unique feature of the A that helps them in the battle with the changeling ship. Make the ship their on have some benefit to their situation and then it can be appreciated.
But lets be real, as soon as the Enterprise D was unveiled none of the crew or the audience gave a flying one about the Titan A

 

[David cgc]

I think it was pretty obvious from the first trailer that the writer's intention was that this was the ship Riker took over at the end of Nemesis, and the -A on the hull was a grudging visual-only concession to the inconvenient fact that Lower Decks had already canonized another appearance for it (seriously, not one word in the scripts suggests this is a different ship). I wouldn't be surprised if there was a moment where someone asked about the practicality of having the LDS scenes of the Titan re-animated to use the new design, George Lucas-style, and the Luna-class would be memory-holed entirely.

 

[fireproof78]

Yeah I totally agree with that. I think Riker should have made a couple more comments on how the Titan A is basically an entirely new ship and Geordi could have made a quip about it looking so similar to the Shangri-La. It doesnt really add up to 'caring' but it would have helped put a bandade over some of the inconsistencies in the writing, in particular Picard calling the A a refit, and having the crew use some sort of tool or unique feature of the A that helps them in the battle with the changeling ship. Make the ship their on have some benefit to their situation and then it can be appreciated.
But lets be real, as soon as the Enterprise D was unveiled none of the crew or the audience gave a flying one about the Titan A

I really think the refit idea is just one that needs to be laid to rest. It's ok to just have a new ship.

 

[USS Artorius]

the Luna-class would be memory-holed entirely.

Too bad its canon. Lol

 

[USS Artorius]

I really think the refit idea is just one that needs to be laid to rest. It's ok to just have a new ship.

Yep! The refit was a term used in TMP to justify the redesign of the Connie and the same excuse is given in PIC to justify the Titan A being completely different to the Luna class. I think Picard may have been poking fun at the TMP "refit" as using that term to involve nearly every element of a ship being redesigned and replaced would be a little rediculous. Yes there are real life instances of naval ships being 'refit' but there is no reason for this to be at all relevant to Starship Building in the 25th century! Just call it a redesign, replacement or whatever else, not a refit.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

I have my favourites and that won't change.

Enterprise NX01
Refit Enterprise from the movies
USS Shenzhou from Discovery
USS Discovery, both versions

 

[cooleddie74]

TOS Enterprise
TMP Refit
NX-01
SNW Enterprise

 

[USS Artorius]

Enterprise D
TMP Enterprise
Excelsior
Soyuz Class

 

[HotRod]

1. TOS/SNW Enterprise NCC-1701
2. Refit Enterprise NCC-1701
3. Enterprise NX-01
4. Excelsior NCC-2000
5. Kelvin NCC-0514

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

So in TMP did they basically gut the Enterprise and add new pylons, nacelles, and the rest? That's more than just a refit.

 

[USS Artorius]

So in TMP did they basically gut the Enterprise and add new pylons, nacelles, and the rest? That's more than just a refit.

Yes exactly. Almost the only thing to remain would be the space-frame, the 'bones of the ship' but its still really confusing that the Admiral in ST3 calls the Enteprise only 20 years old! Luckily now it is definitely implied in canon that the original Enterprise was launched around 2245, as in SNW Admiral Robert April was the captain for at least several years before Pike, though I can't recall if a specific timeframe was mentioned or not.

 

[USS Artorius]

5. Kelvin NCC-0514

Yes someone else who loves the Kelvin!

 

[fireproof78]

Yes someone else who loves the Kelvin!

It's a good ship.

 

[USS Artorius]

She's a tough little ship.

 

[HotRod]

Yes someone else who loves the Kelvin!

I think she's gorgeous.

 

[Richard Baker]

TOS Enterprise
SNW Enterprise
Akira class
Miranda class

Not Canon but the mirror ISS Titan. I really like the alternate nacelles and dorsal pods over the regular one
https://images.app.goo.gl/crybutrpHeD8ZNgs8

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

She's a tough little ship.

 

[fireproof78]

TOS Enterprise
SNW Enterprise
Akira class
Miranda class

Not Canon but the mirror ISS Titan. I really like the alternate nacelles and dorsal pods over the regular one
https://images.app.goo.gl/crybutrpHeD8ZNgs8

Sean's work is always top notch, especially with the MU.

 

[Tuskin38]

I don't know why the decided to use STO's F. But for Season 2, Dave Blass didn't know Thomas or the other ship designers on the STO team, but he did know of them, saw worked posted on their various ArtStation and social media and reached out.

 

[Dukhat]

The original Titan seems very derivative. Looks like a cross between a Sovereign and an Akira. There’s very little originality to the design.