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LOST IN SPACE had it even worse. Uhura and Yeoman Landon would occasionally grab a phaser or kick a guy senseless, but Maureen, Judy and Penny (the Siamese triplets on the Jupiter 2) majored in cowering as well as cooking.
Yeah they spent a LOT of time cooking. More bad ass in the reboot.

Grace used to joke that Rand was a space waitress, cute and not very bright.
 
Rand wasn't as dumb as many may think. Once, when asked how she got hot coffee when the power was out, she used a phaser to heat the coffee. And in "MIRI", she was the one who figured out 'grups' meant 'grownups'.
 
Rand wasn't as dumb as many may think. Once, when asked how she got hot coffee when the power was out, she used a phaser to heat the coffee. And in "MIRI", she was the one who figured out 'grups' meant 'grownups'.
There is a part of me that would like to see Rand get a revamp in SNW as a non-com technician (which is basically what she was, particularly post TOS). You're right that there was a kernel of an idea that she was good at improvisation (also in the first draft of CotEoF). Jet Reno sort of jumped the shark in that regard. I wouldn't want to see Rand invent transwarp beaming with chewing gum and a suspender belt but it might be nice to her come up with novel suggestions from left field.
 
No, they made it a duplicate Earth so they could save money by shooting on the backlot.

I can believe 20th century buildings and cars occuring by parallel evolution. Continents and islands exactly the same shape as ours happening by chance is a lot harder to swallow.
 
I can believe 20th century buildings and cars occuring by parallel evolution. Continents and islands exactly the same shape as ours happening by chance is a lot harder to swallow.

That's why I think the biggest crime of "MIRI" is that it completely glossed over the identical Earth aspect. Is it an artificially made world? Come from another dimension, like "MERIDIAN"? Something else?
 
LOST IN SPACE had it even worse. Uhura and Yeoman Landon would occasionally grab a phaser or kick a guy senseless, but Maureen, Judy and Penny (the Siamese triplets on the Jupiter 2) majored in cowering as well as cooking.

Uhura and Landon presumably got some combat and self-defense classes at Starfleet Academy. If I remember Lost in Space, they were civilians with minimal training.
 
Uhura and Landon presumably got some combat and self-defense classes at Starfleet Academy. If I remember Lost in Space, they were civilians with minimal training.
Yeah you could just as easily argue Dr Smith was rubbish in a fight but it's true to say that he got to do a lot of other things that didn’t involve space vegetables.
 
That's why I think the biggest crime of "MIRI" is that it completely glossed over the identical Earth aspect. Is it an artificially made world? Come from another dimension, like "MERIDIAN"? Something else?
I think in a modern show they could have strung it out for several episodes while they investigated firstly the disease, secondly the research, and thirdly the origin of the planet. Walking Dead has kept a similar plot bouncing for 50 years or so.
 
Rand wasn't as dumb as many may think. Once, when asked how she got hot coffee when the power was out, she used a phaser to heat the coffee. And in "MIRI", she was the one who figured out 'grups' meant 'grownups'.

I guess phasers leave no harmful radiation in liquids. If they'd've brought her onto the bridge in TMP, she might well have solved the true nature of V'ger long before Kirky did.
 
I guess phasers leave no harmful radiation in liquids. If they'd've brought her onto the bridge in TMP, she might well have solved the true nature of V'ger long before Kirky did.
I think Grace probably did herself out of a role on the bridge when she suggested that Marcy Lafferty should see if they had a role for her in the movie. DiFalco wasn't going to solve anything.

That said, it would have been cool if Grace had been able to man the engineering station for part of the movie. It would have been nice if everyone had been on the bridge in the final scene.
 
"Who Mourns for Adonais?" by Gilbert Ralston and Gene L. Coon

Ah, the 60s... "One day she'll find the right man and off she'll go, out of the service."

Anyway, the Enterprise is mapping a planet when, suddenly, a giant green energy hand appears and grabs the ship, stopping it cold. A giant face appears and calls them "my children." He threatens the ship with squeezing, putting actual pressure on the hull. He invites them to the planet (except Spock, who reminds him of Pan) and Kirk, McCoy, Scotty, Chekov, and Lt. Carolyn Palamas (specialist in archaeology, anthropology, and ancient civilizations). He introduces himself as Apollo. Of course, he likes Carolyn, and puts her in a lovely Greek-inspired gown. Scotty also likes her, so he (stupidly) tries to attack Apollo and gets smacked. Apollo also fries their phasers and cuts off communication. Kirk speculates that the beings we know from mythology simply appeared to be gods to the people of the time.

Carolyn and Apollo have a nice scene where he tells her the others have sort of faded, their energy returning to the Universe, and he's the last one left, having believed that humans would get here eventually. They are powered by love and worship. That's why he wants the Enterprise crew to live on the planet with him.

Observing Apollo being tired and needing to leave after expending energy, Kirk plans to have all 4 of the party come at Apollo at once, to try and exhaust him. Carolyn stymies this plan by intervening to "save" the party.

Meanwhile, Spock has Sulu looking for Apollo's power source, Kyle (first appearance) looking for a way to punch holes in the force field, and Uhura working on a communication workaround. They all get some nice moments, as does Chekov, who first appeared in the previous episode but didn't really have anything to do. Here, he starts on the Russian-centric running gag.

CHEKOV: He disappeared again like the cat in that Russian story.
KIRK: Don't you mean the English story, the Cheshire Cat?
CHEKOV: Cheshire? No, sir. Minsk perhaps, but...

His previous plan having failed, Kirk talks seriously to Carolyn, reminding her of her duty and responsibility and telling her to spurn Apollo. She lies to him, comparing him to a specimen for study, and he calls forth a big storm. Kirk tells Spock to fire on the temple and it's destroyed. Apollo, broken and defeated, calls out to the other gods that they were right, and fades away.

Lovely ending:
MCCOY: I wish we hadn't had to do this.
KIRK: So do I. They gave us so much. The Greek civilization, much of our culture and philosophy came from a worship of those beings. In a way, they began the Golden Age. Would it have hurt us, I wonder, just to have gathered a few laurel leaves?

I've always had a soft spot for this episode because I'm a huge nerd for Greek mythology. Michael Forest is marvelous as Apollo - capricious, by turns bratty and caring, and his tears at the end truly touched me.
 
"Who Mourns for Adonais?" by Gilbert Ralston and Gene L. Coon

I've always had a soft spot for this episode because I'm a huge nerd for Greek mythology. Michael Forest is marvelous as Apollo - capricious, by turns bratty and caring, and his tears at the end truly touched me.

There's a fine sequel, also with Forest, you've possibly already seen online: the first episode of STAR TREK CONTINUES.
Ignore the haters. They're just jealous.:borg:

And the last scene is wonderful.
 
"Who Mourns for Adonais?" by Gilbert Ralston and Gene L. Coon

Ah, the 60s... "One day she'll find the right man and off she'll go, out of the service."

Anyway, the Enterprise is mapping a planet when, suddenly, a giant green energy hand appears and grabs the ship, stopping it cold. A giant face appears and calls them "my children." He threatens the ship with squeezing, putting actual pressure on the hull. He invites them to the planet (except Spock, who reminds him of Pan) and Kirk, McCoy, Scotty, Chekov, and Lt. Carolyn Palamas (specialist in archaeology, anthropology, and ancient civilizations). He introduces himself as Apollo. Of course, he likes Carolyn, and puts her in a lovely Greek-inspired gown. Scotty also likes her, so he (stupidly) tries to attack Apollo and gets smacked. Apollo also fries their phasers and cuts off communication. Kirk speculates that the beings we know from mythology simply appeared to be gods to the people of the time.

Carolyn and Apollo have a nice scene where he tells her the others have sort of faded, their energy returning to the Universe, and he's the last one left, having believed that humans would get here eventually. They are powered by love and worship. That's why he wants the Enterprise crew to live on the planet with him.

Observing Apollo being tired and needing to leave after expending energy, Kirk plans to have all 4 of the party come at Apollo at once, to try and exhaust him. Carolyn stymies this plan by intervening to "save" the party.

Meanwhile, Spock has Sulu looking for Apollo's power source, Kyle (first appearance) looking for a way to punch holes in the force field, and Uhura working on a communication workaround. They all get some nice moments, as does Chekov, who first appeared in the previous episode but didn't really have anything to do. Here, he starts on the Russian-centric running gag.

CHEKOV: He disappeared again like the cat in that Russian story.
KIRK: Don't you mean the English story, the Cheshire Cat?
CHEKOV: Cheshire? No, sir. Minsk perhaps, but...

His previous plan having failed, Kirk talks seriously to Carolyn, reminding her of her duty and responsibility and telling her to spurn Apollo. She lies to him, comparing him to a specimen for study, and he calls forth a big storm. Kirk tells Spock to fire on the temple and it's destroyed. Apollo, broken and defeated, calls out to the other gods that they were right, and fades away.

Lovely ending:
MCCOY: I wish we hadn't had to do this.
KIRK: So do I. They gave us so much. The Greek civilization, much of our culture and philosophy came from a worship of those beings. In a way, they began the Golden Age. Would it have hurt us, I wonder, just to have gathered a few laurel leaves?

I've always had a soft spot for this episode because I'm a huge nerd for Greek mythology. Michael Forest is marvelous as Apollo - capricious, by turns bratty and caring, and his tears at the end truly touched me.
Frustratingly, there were maybe a dozen episodes that required the A&A officer but she ended up fridged.
 
I've always had a soft spot for this episode because I'm a huge nerd for Greek mythology. Michael Forest is marvelous as Apollo - capricious, by turns bratty and caring, and his tears at the end truly touched me.
I enjoyed this episode save for Palmas' character, who repeats the mistakes of the McGiver's character. But, the idea of the Greek gods being aliens and powerful and still around is really enjoyable.
 
Exactly. NASA photos of Earth would have had clouds. :rommie:
The first photo of the entire sunlit side of the Earth as seen from space was taken by the crew of Apollo 17 in December 1972, more than six years after "Miri" first aired. (Previous Apollo missions had taken photographs of the earth in part shadow.)

That's why I think the biggest crime of "MIRI" is that it completely glossed over the identical Earth aspect. Is it an artificially made world? Come from another dimension, like "MERIDIAN"? Something else?
It was bad writing -- a cheap hook in the pre-credit teaser to make viewers stay tuned and watch the entire episode. We kept waiting for an explanation for the exact duplicate of Earth and none was forthcoming.
 
The first photo of the entire sunlit side of the Earth as seen from space was taken by the crew of Apollo 17 in December 1972, more than six years after "Miri" first aired. (Previous Apollo missions had taken photographs of the earth in part shadow.)


It was bad writing -- a cheap hook in the pre-credit teaser to make viewers stay tuned and watch the entire episode. We kept waiting for an explanation for the exact duplicate of Earth and none was forthcoming.
It was just a planet that popped into existence in a plural z zone.
 
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