The Vegetarian Space Socialists Who Are Always Right
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not clicking on any weird Youturd video..
Give us a summary of what they said.
Give us a summary of what they said.
It’s just a 1-minute comedy sketch making fun of Trek tropes. The creator is Alasdair Beckett-King. He has a whole series of sketch videos poking fun at different genres.
Captain Alisdair: Onscreen.
Alien Alisdair: Greetings, captain! I represent an alien race not necessarily based upon a specific human ethnicity, but it still feels kind of iffy.
We represent the vegetarian space socialists who are always right.
You guys are the worst.
We know.
My people will not leave this planet under any circumstances, even though it is going to be destroyed.
But that planet is going to be destroyed.
...then we will leave.
Ambassador, your vessel appears to be travelling at an unusual angle.
I do not understand, captain. From our point of view, your ship is at an unusual angle.
Normally when we meet other ships, they're like this, but you're like... Do you see what I mean?
Captain, this is space...
"I'm at a weird angle."
There is no "up" in space.
"Why am I at a weird angle?"
I do not sound like that!
I'm going to beam you to the bridge and when you look back at your own ship, you're going to see what I mean.
Worf Action Figure: Captain, I must protest!
Shut up, I hate you!
I cannot see what you think this will prove, captain!
It's going to prove that your ship's wonky. See? Someone get me a Vimto.
Replicators give them no need for actual animal products (which actually makes them all vegan).
Depends on what was fed into the replication system. Like if on DS9, they killed a bunch of Cardassian voles and threw the dead ones into the disposal chutes, where they were molecularized and later recombined by the replicators. You could order a green salad, but it technically wouldn't be vegan, would it?
Well like the admiral said in the 32nd century.. it's shit .. we eat our own shite
The 'Owon eggs were certainly non-replicated (for that matter, neither were the traditional dishes aboard the IKS Pagh). However, in any case, although the gastrointestinal systems of the finickiest gourmands may rumble in protest, replicated food tastes identical and is identical on the molecular level; there has never been a mention of such sustenance being nutritionally deficient (i.e., causing malnutrition over the course of long-term exclusive consumption). Imagine deeming Jean-Luc - connoisseur of the steeped leaf - to be a false fan of tea simply because his brew is created by a machine.
At best, the the replicator sidesteps the philosophical opposition to consuming something which once lived.
One, that's all food. We're drinking dinosaur piss and eating worm shit, just broken down a billion times over, recycled, and remade, and two, well with the advance of enrichment chemistry we are injecting new, never-before-or-at-least-locked-away stuff into our food to make it even better.
Jeez if that's really a line from Dis or whatever, is that supposed to be shocking or something to the audience? (Edit: yep, apparently it is, delivered by an Admiral with the tact of a schoolboy and shockingly these advanced future beings react disgustedly...like...this isn't news? To anybody?
) That's literally a cornerstone of any closed system, which includes planets, and most definitely smaller stuff like our first long-term space stations and missions. ECLSS makes it possible for people to be around to make warp go/land on Mars, after all. I remember ENT had this aversion to it too, tucker was talking about how they recycle everything on a spaceship but stopped short of 'food' for 'boots'.
Precisely my point. Some vegans are now eating cultured meat.
One, that's all food. We're drinking dinosaur piss and eating worm shit, just broken down a billion times over, recycled, and remade, and two, well with the advance of enrichment chemistry we are injecting new, never-before-or-at-least-locked-away stuff into our food to make it even better.
Jeez if that's really a line from Dis or whatever, is that supposed to be shocking or something to the audience? (Edit: yep, apparently it is, delivered by an Admiral with the tact of a schoolboy and shockingly these advanced future beings react disgustedly...like...this isn't news? To anybody?
I remember ENT had this aversion to it too, tucker was talking about how they recycle everything on a spaceship but stopped short of 'food' for 'boots'.
Why I'm surprised that current recycle systems for waste water made into drinking water is so contriversial.. Its what happens naturally through layers of soil and rock..
The bottom line? These folks are not vegetarians.
As a meat dodger for around four decades, I'd happily try cultured meat. I think that, at that point the terms vegetarian, vegan and plant-based become superfluous. You are simply animal free.
Same. Except for the meat dodger part.
It provides actual meat, but eliminates both the killing and the environmental disruption of mass production, plus post-slaughter clean-up. Plus, since a vat doesn't exercise, the meat is likely to be higher quality.
It was the killing and cruelty bit for me, but as it went on, the environmental aspect was also a factor.
If they don't eat animal products from actual animals, then they're ethical vegans. Cultured meat is vegan.
Why would a lack of exercise make for better meat? It's actually a negative because then the meat doesn't have the texture we expect. Cultured meat will have to be artificially exercised in order to perfectly replicate that texture.
The most popular cuts of beef are from the parts of the animal that get the least exercise. A vat-grown culture could grow that sort of meat uniformly. Imagine steak or roast beef at a fraction of the current price.
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