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I disagree. Spock is acting in the interests of everyone alive in their universe, because, if Edith doesn’t die, they and everyone else will either cease to exist or find themselves in, perhaps, a far worse place.
But, yes, Kirk has a terrible price to pay.
Spock acting in his own self interest is compatible with acting in the greater good, whereas Kirk acting in his own self interest is not.
Well put!
A Taste of Armageddon
Yep, still good.
Question: How did Fox get himself beamed down? Scott seemed pretty dead set against it and what further threats could Fox have come up with? And how did they get around the whole "They will blow up the Enterprise if they lower their shields to beam anyone down" thing?
I forget what actual Scot that I heard saying that he'd never heard anyone say "The haggis is in the fire" in his life. Craig Ferguson? Some random person on a podcast? Who knows?
"Vulcanian" was with us for pretty much the whole season, wasn't it?
They have subspace! Ergo, warp drive! No PD for you!
Yep, still good.
Question: How did Fox get himself beamed down? Scott seemed pretty dead set against it and what further threats could Fox have come up with? And how did they get around the whole "They will blow up the Enterprise if they lower their shields to beam anyone down" thing?
I forget what actual Scot that I heard saying that he'd never heard anyone say "The haggis is in the fire" in his life. Craig Ferguson? Some random person on a podcast? Who knows?
"Vulcanian" was with us for pretty much the whole season, wasn't it?
They have subspace! Ergo, warp drive! No PD for you!
At this time, the planetary disruptors are off. My guess is that the Enterprise did lower their shields momentarily to beam Fox and friend down, but must have caught the Eminians by surprise (Anan was busy capturing Kirk at this moment) and by the time they could activate their disruptors, the Enterprise's shields were back up.
Correct, they have subspace communication and transporter technology based on:
- SPOCK: These are the attack computers, Captain. That one's defence, that one computes the casualties. They're all tied in with a subspace transmission unit, which keeps them in constant contact with their Vendikan counterparts.
- MEA: Fusion bombs, materialized by the enemy over their targets.
- SPOCK: We know very little about them. Their civilisation is advanced. They've had space flight for several centuries, but they've never ventured beyond their own solar system. When first contacted more than fifty years ago, Eminiar Seven was at war with its nearest neighbor.
Yep. It really surprised me to hear it throughout. I'm guessing season 2 (which I think starts with Amok Time) is when that changed.
Beaming down through the shields doesn't seem to have been a problem (I think they do it in other episodes), it's beaming UP that cannot be done!
Yeah, Amok Time must be when they decided to streamline the whole thing: the planet is named Vulcan, the people there are Vulcans, their language is Vulcan, they order Vulcan takeout, and their philosophy is based on Vulcan logic.
Vulcanian was going to be cumbersome and annoying in a Vulcan-centered episode, and the word Vulcan already sounded like a category rather than just a proper name, even though it wasn't one until Star Trek came along. American, Canadian, Armenian, Nigerian... the -an ending on Vulcan is what sealed the deal. It would have made more sense if the planet was named Vulca, but that ship had sailed, and they went with what they had.
The planet was originally supposed to be "Vulcanis", but I don't recall that name ever used in the show itself.
Ugh, somebody scanned that page with a giant hair on the glass, and didn't re-do it.
Also, this is the notorious promotional kit photo, I think it was sent to NBC affiliates, in which either Nimoy posed for the picture without Vulcan makeup, or Spock's ears and eyebrows were airbrushed by NBC to make the show seem less weird.
Yes, this is the (in)famous 'airbrushed photo' from the NBC promotional booklet.
I believe "Court Martial" was the last episode in which "Vulcanian" was used.
It was used as late as This Side of Paradise. But Devil in the Dark and Errand of Mercy use Vulcan exclusively. I never realized how late those episodes were in the season!
Vulcans from the planet Vulcan.
Romulans from Romulus.
Bajorans from Bajor (and why isn't is Bay-jorans from Bay-jor?)
Klingons from Kling (a thankfully one-time deal mentioned quickly on TNG before Kronos/Qo'nos was introduced in TUC.
Farengi from Farenginar
Trills from Trill
Yet nine times out of ten, people from Earth are called humans. Rarely Earthlings (the Gorn did), but "Earthers" was cool when Koloth and his guys used it. I just found it too "TV" to name species after their home planets (and vice versa). It would be fine if these were Federation/Starfleet designations, but the inhabitants use these names as well.
From its use in "The Trouble with Tribbles" and the TAS episode "Yesteryear," it's apparent that "Earther" is a derogatory term.
Correct me on this, but I think Gene Roddenberry's first rough idea was that Spock would be a Martian. But somebody said that would be implausible, given what was already known about Mars in 1964. Gene wasn't a scientist.
And next, Roddenberry suggested that Spock should come from the planet Vulcan, located inside the orbit of Mercury. Somebody shot that down, because Science, but the name stuck. And it's a great name.
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Don't forget tuh-RAN (Terran).
In Star Trek there are probably people from Earth who aren't human.There are many humans across the galaxy that are not from Earth.
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