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Spoilers Bad Batch Season 3 - February 21st

Hm apparently her appearance here will line up with the novel some how

https://www.starwars.com/news/the-bad-batch-season-3-trailer

And he makes clear that her return will honor prior tales, including the book in which the character apparently perished. “We don't want to spoil anything, but want fans to know that any new storytelling with Ventress will align with the events of Star Wars: Dark Disciple.”
 
Well bugger me sideways, I did not expect that!
I mean Fennic, Cad Bane, Wolfe, Rex, that unreasonably handsome clone? Sure! All within the bounds of expectations . . . but a very much NOT dead Ventress? Hell no!

How is that even feasible though? How could a dead witch from a coven notorious for their proficiency with necromancy, who was buried in the living swamp waters of her ancestral home saturated with powerful magiks, and one of the most force strong planets in the galaxy, possibly come back from the dead? Well I don't know about anyone else but I'm stumped!

Let the fan theory youtube blitz begin! Who wants to take bets on her really being a half-android/half-clone of Abeloth that will eventually mutated into Snoke? Seems like the only reasonable explanation to me.
Seriously though; I'm glad the lead in on the new season is so short, since the clickbait is going to be all over the place. ;)

Oh right, there was a whole trailer before that, wasn't there? Random thoughts in vague order: -
  • Always nice to see an Juggernaught/Turbo Tank. Pretty sure that's an A9 not a A6, given the smaller size and that I'm pretty sure the asset has been in the show already.
  • New ship design? Seems like a cross between a CR-20, a Sentinel lander, and a Nu class, though it feels like it's meant to be an older design of a similar lineage? Either way, it be very chonk for a shuttle!
  • So one of the ships from Wayland passing what looks like something very similar in design to the Imperial occupation dome on Lothal, and Coruscant. No comment, but it's neat to see another on of those dome ships/stations.
  • We're going back to Teth? Makes you feel a little sorry for those B'omarr Monks. Can't go more than a few years without clones, droids and/or Stormtroopers blowing up the joint.
  • Don't recognise this planet. For a split second I thought it could be Lothal because: grass, but the rock formations are all wrong. Could be Dantoonie I guess, byre more likely somewhere new. Seem modelled somewhat after New Zealand maybe?
  • Am I crazy, or does Omega's hair change style between those two shots? Are we going to get an on screen progression of time instead of a between season skip? They almost never do that! I mean if she's been waiting "a long time", how long? 3 months? 6? A year? I kinda want it to be a whole year.
  • Gee, I wonder why Palps is so eager to dedicate so many resources to a facility trying to recreate and push Kaminoan cloning tech? Snoke who? Exogolwhatnow? What a mystery this is!
  • OK, so I really need them to show the rest of Delta Squad. They keep teasing Scorch, but where's the Boss? I want a Temura voice cameo damnit! ;)
  • Looks like the same pointy rock grass planet from before.
  • Welp, so much for that paradise retreat. Also; what is the deal with these fanatic clones? The early stages of the Death Trooper program?
  • Noticing the Batch's armour seem way grungier and beat up this time. An indication they've been in the thick of it with Rex's outfit for a while now?
  • Hey Fennic. Hey Cad. Hey Nala Se. hey nutcase clone. Hey Wolfe. Hey Hunter and Rex looking all grim and stoic. Also Echo, Hot Clone (get it?), a definitely older and now more Boba looking than ever Omega.
  • Wrecker as space Crocodile Dundee? Well he does have the knife for it (and probably the spoon too.)
  • That's an interesting design. Kinda reminds me of the original "Star Destroyers" from the early ANH drafts when they were small triangular fighters. I'm guessing a bounty hunter or syndicate ship fo some kind?
  • Looks like a direct assault on Tantiss. I'm sure that'll go off without a hitch (a fiver says they release the Zillo Beast and the rest of the menagerie as a distraction.)
  • OK, it took a few seconds for my brain to fully process this. I recognised the voice but just thought: oh neat, they brought back Nika Futterman for a new role! Oh wait. What? No! They didn't?! They did! Seriously though this feels like the realisation of something they'd planned to do for Resistance, but backed off on. I approve and now insist she show up in the Mandoverse and/or the Rey movie!
  • At first I just thought that was exactly the Dark Disciple outfit designed for TCW season 6*, but on closer inspection; her hair is shorter, shaped and parted differently, the outfit itself is missing the tabard, has different boots, and is overall more utilitarian looking. Almost like she's living a more survival oriented, semi-nomadic existence, perhaps to avoid certain inquisitive visitors that won't take a hint she's not interesting an anything that spins like a helicopter toy.
  • The only parts of that costume that seems to remain is the pauldron and the under-layer, with a different tunic, but overall similar pallet.
  • Oh and that's a very different lightsaber hilt from the one they used for the book cover (probably because they gave it to Maul instead.) This one is curved, but it's not one of her old ones; it almost looks like Dooku's design. Blade is yellow golden though.
  • I smell editing trickery here! The location where Ventress is is clearly not the same as the shot of Wrecker & Hunter. Different scenes. Possibly different episodes. Still the blaster bolts are blue. I forget if the Empire already switched to red or not? If not then possibly clones, or indeed, The Batch?

* Production season 6 of course. It would have likely been broadcast in season 7 if not for the cancellation. The first 5 seasons were all 26 episode orders but they only aired 22 per season, so there was an increased amount of overspill over the years. IIRC 6 & the (presumed final) season 7 were just 24 episode orders, meaning the show could have run for 8 whole 22 episode seasons!
 
Well we know from Kenobi that Vos is still out and about. So maybe they will tie him into this story as well.
 
Saw it pointed out on Star Wars Explained's breakdown that Ventress databank entry on the official website has also been changed
"Ultimately, Ventress sacrificed herself to save Quinlan’s life, taking the brunt of Dooku’s Force lightning during their final confrontation. But that wasn’t the end of Asajj’s story…"
 
The final episode is literally the first words we hear from the Bad Batch in Clone Wars.
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Damn, that was an awesome trailer. Like most people seem to be, I'm shocked to see Ventress alive, but at least they've said they're keeping this lined up with Dark Disciple. I'm curious if they're bringing her back from the dead, or if they're going to somehow retcon it so she didn't actually die.
 
Well Palpatine is having people experiment with cloning Force powers....a Ventress clone that can use them would be interesting, but it has not been nearly long enough for them to grow a clone the Kamino way. But maybe the old EU has a faster, more dangerous way?
 
I'm glad to have a real trailer. Last week, one of my Facebook friends linked to what they believed to be a trailer for Skeleton Crew, and after watching it I followed the links to a supposed Bad Batch trailer and The Acolyte trailer, until I realized they were AI-generated fakes, which left me feeling soiled and embarrassed that I was tricked (though I'm sure my FB friend was just as unaware). I started to realize there was something wrong when the clones in the BB trailer were speaking with hardly any New Zealand accent; I guess the AI isn't good at faking that. I finally caught on when Yoda's voice in the third trailer barely sounded like Yoda at all. It's amazing the fakes haven't been taken down, given that they have Lucasfilm and Disney+ logos and purport to be official, unless you read the page text under the videos.
 
Hell, yeah! I cannot wait!

As someone who hasn't read Dark Disciple, even I was surprised yet elated by Ventress' appearance!

So much packed into that trailer that leaves me excited about the final season.

It's just going to be rough to watch without Tech at their side. :(
 
On a brief re-examination of the text of 'Dark Disciple', I think it's fair to say that even if the book didn't explicitly set up a return for Ventress, it certainly did leave the door firmly ajar next to an explicit set of directions complete with clearly drawn road map for it . . .
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Yup. Dumping a body in a pool of rebirth, and have it almost immediately start glowing like the waters of life, followed by faint ghostly voices sure seems a little itty bit on the necromanty resurrectionish end of the "how are they alive" argument, no?
Well Palpatine is having people experiment with cloning Force powers....a Ventress clone that can use them would be interesting, but it has not been nearly long enough for them to grow a clone the Kamino way. But maybe the old EU has a faster, more dangerous way?
Less likely that the Ventress connection to Palpatine's quest (assuming there is one) has anything to do with cloning, than it has everything to do with him wanting to get his hands of anything that'll get him so of that death defeating Dathomirian magiks, what with Asajj's whole "returning from death" thing.

Well, shit. This was quick. Not only is there a much smaller gap between seasons 2 and 3 than there was between seasons 1 and 2, but this feels rather last minute to be announcing a premiere date in February.

I imagine they had to take a minute after to strikes to re-jigger the schedule, and figure out a new marketing strategy to fit it, hence the truncated lead-in. Also; anyone else notice the release date of the finale? How much do we want to bet this is all being timed to coincide some other showcase a few days later?
 
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