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News Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire anticipation thread

But that's the thing: HE DIDN'T CREATE IT. Straczynski didn't develop the show, he wasn't a producer, he wrote 24 out of 140 episodes. It wasn't his baby.

That's a severe reduction of his participation. He was the story editor and made the shows bible.

Still waiting for you to somehow explain why one sarcastic tweet is a fit, which was what I took issue with to begin with.
 
Apparently J. Michael Straczynski is having another fit over Frozen Empire because according to IGN the Empire article makes another reference to the show being inspired by The Real Ghostbusters. This just seems like it's a bit of an overreaction on his part, all they said was that they were inspired by the kinds of villains they had on the show, it's not like they're actually adapting one of the episodes or bringing a specific villain he created into the movie.

It's not just one tweet. It's his history of acting like a child.

Link is to an article that directly cites one tweet, despite the hyperbolic statements. Nothing else said by him. The posts here saying he threw a fit are longer than the tweet that is supposed to have been a fit.
 
The argument is just over a single word that exaggerates the reaction but does not really change the general facts.

Pretend they said "whining". ;)
 
I'm not a big fan of JMS but come on, it was one tweet in response to headlines from about how the new movie is drawing inspiration from the TV show he made, making it clear that while he made the tv show he wasn't involved in the movie but was around if anyone had wanted to contact him. And no one did. One tweet isn't a fit. That's clickbait.

If the makers of the film want to keep talking about how it's inspired from and used his show I don't see that it's inappropriate for the artist behind the show to make a tweet after each interview about his lack of involvement.
Sorry, I guess maybe I read a little more anger into the Tweet than was actually in it.
This wasn't just one Tweet, this was the second or third time now that he's posted about it. And the fact that he keeps bringing it up, must mean he feels pretty strongly about it.
 
Sorry, I guess maybe I read a little more anger into the Tweet than was actually in it.
This wasn't just one Tweet, this was the second or third time now that he's posted about it. And the fact that he keeps bringing it up, must mean he feels pretty strongly about it.

He hasnt brought it up. He quote tweeted articles one time each when the makers of the new movie gave interviews saying they based elements of the new movie off of the real Ghostbusters and the news was headlines.

Edit: just for fun, I searched his tweets. He hasn't even used the word Ghostbusters since November, and that was commenting on the new game using a ghost be created in the cartoon.
 
But that's the thing: HE DIDN'T CREATE IT. Straczynski didn't develop the show, he wasn't a producer, he wrote 24 out of 140 episodes. It wasn't his baby.

Yeah, would be like if Conan were complaining about not being contacted about a Simpsons movie or something. JMS has a history of complaining.
 
Yeah, would be like if Conan were complaining about not being contacted about a Simpsons movie or something. JMS has a history of complaining.

Right. For heaven's sake, he used to flip out at people (again, going back to Usenet) who dared to suggest that he was lifting things from The Lord of the Rings wholesale on Babylon 5.

He is terminally in need of recognition.

Edit: I'll repeat: Do you see Michael Mann complaining that Christopher Nolan directly drew influence from Heat for the opening bank heist in The Dark Knight, or Martin Scorsese taking potshots at Todd Phillips because Joker is basically a re-skinned The King of Comedy?
 
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I understand that maybe he's fond of his time working on the show, and that he would be protective of what he's worked on, but he seems to have a lot of expectations. In reality he was only a bit player in a long-running TV show. But the movie writers shouldn't be under any obligation to satiate his needs. He should just be happy if they end up being inspired by what he wrote, because even then, that itself doesn't happen often in movies.
 
New trailer. Most of it is more nostalgia bait.

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I know there is a lot of anticipation for this movie on this forum, and a lot of people loved Afterlife, but this new trailer for Frozen Empire is like 90% nostalgia bait and I just get more and more cynical cash in vibes with every piece of marketing I see for it.
 
I had big issues with Afterlife. Part of that was the nostalgia stuff. With the sequel I thought they'd have a chance to get away from that, but this is digging deeper in to it. Well, it sells I guess.
 
I didn't get an over-reliance on nostalgia vibe. Not nearly as much as Afterlife, anyway. I'm excited to see it!
 
Does it have nostalgia bait? Yes.

Do I care? Nope.

Why? Because it's not just nostalgia.

Afterlife did an excellent job of balancing the nostalgia and creating new characters telling their own stories. Even though Jason Reitman didn't direct his time, he was still one of the writers and I trust him to maintain the same balance for Frozen Empire.
 
I think, unfortunately, the place to put all of the nostalgia bait is in the trailer. At least from a general marketing perspective. I'm sure those are the lines that get all of the points in test screenings.

Like, if this trailer is presenting the majority of the callbacks to the originals, that's fine with me. Just, you know, space them out in the actual movie.
 
There is a whole portion of the audience, for example, who sees that final shot of the trailer and says, "How do they NOT have him say, 'He slimed me'?! It's right there!'"

And that's who the marketing is trying to keep happy, mostly trying to avoid another 2016.
 
The man with no dick is back. :)
Looks like it'll be a fun movie but I would have kept Slimer a surprise.
 
I had big issues with Afterlife. Part of that was the nostalgia stuff. With the sequel I thought they'd have a chance to get away from that, but this is digging deeper in to it. Well, it sells I guess.


There was actually quite little of it given that it was a franchise that's been asleep for so long. FWIW, I feel there was just the right amount of nostalgia to spark interest without it being overbearing. What they used was enough to get a story going connected to the original ghostbusters. Not having any nostalgia would have been impossible in this sense. Kind of a 'damned if they do, damned if they don't' kind of situation.
 
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