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Maybe it's because of social media, or maybe it's something else, but people have become more vocal, more willing to express their opinions. Further, especially since the 2016 US presidential election, people have become more militant, more extreme in their views. Gone are the days of "live and let live." Now people feel if you are not with them, then you must be against them. Even expressing a neutral opinion is taken as opposition of whatever the cause might be.
Well, yes, and no. People are more vocal, but we also have more platforms to actually express our opinions. And, more than that, we have greater freedom to ignore those whom we feel are "shoving it down our throats."

So, while it might feel more vocal, I think we just have far more platforms and willingness to use that freedom has increased. And while I disagree with many, that shouldn't stop them from posting.

Yes, basically. This is what some people, especially "free speech absolutist" dum-dums don't get. The First Amendment protects you from prosecution by the government for speech criticizing the government or speech deemed offensive (assuming its not connected to any criminal acts). It doesn't protect you from the consequences of speech, like having other people criticize your speech or having companies end their relationship with you. They're exercising their right to freedom of speech and freedom of association under the First Amendment.

True talk, I used to be like our friend here, thinking people who posted stuff I didn't like shouldn't be able to. But you know what, I found ignoring people is really the best way. Logging off periodically from social media, or not getting involved in the first place is the bestest way.
Also this. Freedom of speech means the government cannot curtail speech.
 
@Captain Whitmire treat it like going to someone's house. They might say things in their own house that you don't agree so you have three options
1. argue back
2. say nothing
3. decline future invitations and leave
whichever one you choose, its their personal space they can say whatever they want depending which legal system they live under.
 
In 1964 there was no social media. Actors, content creators, fans, etc had no platform on which they could share their political views or social commentary.
A tiny nit to pick - there were interviews in traditional media and the firestorms could be fierce, i.e. the burning of Beatles records after John Lennon said they were bigger than Jesus (which was taken very differently from how John meant it).
 
Not to be a naysayer, but message boards (aka Internet forums) are considered a sub-type of social media.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_media#Definition_and_features
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_forum

The primary difference between forums and social networking sites such as Facebook is that the forum offers a greater level of anonymity, often near total, while the latter offers far less, approaching none [https://postmaker.io/blog/is-a-forum-social-media/]. Despite this caveat, the ability to engage in social networking is still present on sites like TrekBBS, which, along with user-generated content, interactivity, and profiles, is one of the essential characteristics of social media.
 
What do you mean, "this is what I'm talking about"? Do you mean that Gina Carano should have been censored before making her antisemitic remarks?
What antisemitic remarks did Gina Carano make? It was a long time ago, but the way I remember it, she compared people who persecute conservatives today to the Nazis persecuting Jews in the 30s. She was cancelled for that comment, which proved her right. Her costar Pedro Pascal compared conservatives to Nazis and received no consequences.
 
What antisemitic remarks did Gina Carano make? It was a long time ago, but the way I remember it, she compared people who persecute conservatives today to the Nazis persecuting Jews in the 30s. She was cancelled for that comment, which proved her right.
It’s no wonder you don’t recognize Carano’s remark as antisemitic, because your post right here is antisemitic as well and you apparently don't even realize it. It’s weird to have to spell this out for you, but being “cancelled” for a comment is not the same as being a Jew in the holocaust who were persecuted and murdered. The fuck are you even talking about?
 
It’s no wonder you don’t recognize Carano’s remark as antisemitic, because your post right here is antisemitic as well and you apparently don't even realize it. It’s weird to have to spell this out for you, but being “cancelled” for a comment is not the same as being a Jew in the holocaust who were persecuted and murdered. The fuck are you even talking about?
I wasn't talking about the holocaust. The persecution of Jews in Germany started much earlier than the holocaust. It started in the early 1930s with boycotts against Jewish businesses, which is eerily similar to modern day cancel culture.
 
I wasn't talking about the holocaust. The persecution of Jews in Germany started much earlier than the holocaust. It started in the early 1930s with boycotts against Jewish businesses, which is eerily similar to modern day cancel culture.
“Eerily similar” — yeah right. :rolleyes: Wake me when they start to throw actors into camps for their shitty takes on Twitter. LMAO.
 
I wasn't talking about the holocaust. The persecution of Jews in Germany started much earlier than the holocaust. It started in the early 1930s with boycotts against Jewish businesses, which is eerily similar to modern day cancel culture.

Come back to me when right-wingers are forced to wear stars on their clothes, when right-wingers are prohibited by law from entering certain industries, and when businesses owned by conservatives are forced onto a registry and subjected to systematic violent assault.

Until then, quit wasting my and others' time with this whiny, antisemitic bullshit.
 
Depends on how you define the word.
As a negative term, I think "woke" is best used as anyone who thinks past prejudice or ill treatment gives a minority group more rights than their non-minority counterparts, or that the "oppressor" group must be placed subordinate or made inferior to the "oppressed".

Examples might include:

* Excusing the BLM riots, which were insurrections as much as January 6 was, in a different location. I say that the fact that one man was murdered does not excuse violence and mayhem against the innocent (many of them minority and some even black). "Woke" disagrees.

* In the original "The Little Mermaid", Eric is saved by Ariel or her minions three times before managing to save her at the end. For the "woke", a 3-1 ratio is not enough. So in the live action remake, Ariel saves him. Again. If you can't empower women in other way by emasculating men, you're not very creative.

* When a well regarded fantasy writer long regarded for her passionate opposition to racism, sexism, and other bigotry feels the need to stand up for the rights of XX women, she gets targeted by all manner of media abuse. Some would say that these women need a voice, and that even if this writer is wrong, she's following her conscience. "Woke" people say otherwise.
 
Come back to me when right-wingers are forced to wear stars on their clothes, when right-wingers are prohibited by law from entering certain industries, and when businesses owned by conservatives are forced onto a registry and subjected to systematic violent assault.

Until then, quit wasting my and others' time with this whiny, antisemitic bullshit.
I think you should look up the definition of antisemitism, since you clearly don't understand what it means. I have said nothing that was hostile or prejudicial towards the Jewish people. Also, my dad is Jewish.
 
What antisemitic remarks did Gina Carano make? It was a long time ago, but the way I remember it, she compared people who persecute conservatives today to the Nazis persecuting Jews in the 30s. She was cancelled for that comment, which proved her right. Her costar Pedro Pascal compared conservatives to Nazis and received no consequences.
She also reposted a political cartoon using antisemitic imagery and tropes (screenshot and explanation about halfway down on this article I just googled up). There's an argument that she didn't understand what it was, but I think if you're going to be throwing around "I'm being persecuted just like how the Jews were in Germany," you should know enough about how the Jews were persecuted in Germany to recognize that "a cabal of international bankers who secretly run the world despite being an easily-resisted minority if their schemes were exposed" isn't talking about the Catholics.

* When a well regarded fantasy writer long regarded for her passionate opposition to racism, sexism, and other bigotry feels the need to stand up for the rights of XX women, she gets targeted by all manner of media abuse.
Say that again after reviewing the depiction of the goblin-run banking system in the Harry Potter, or the names of minority characters such as Cho Chang, Anthony Goldstein, Pavarti Patil, and Seamus Finnegan.

You know what? If anyone ever says anything about bankers that isn't "They are extremely normal people who are just like everyone else," it's probably worth giving that person a closer look. Start with Henry Ford.
 
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