Spoilers Loki season 2-- spoilers and discussion

[Christopher]

Also, I'm really starting to boggle at how much character drift Loki has had now. In Season 1 he still felt like an alternative version of the Loki from the movies, but now, he literally could be a random dude coincidentally played by Tom Hiddleston. He rarely uses his powers, and displays none of the personality traits associated with him.

There's not that much character exploration of any kind this season, since it's so overwhelmingly about plot and the procedural business of trying to solve the technobabble problem. Sure, they tried to bring it to a character-based place here, but the essence of it was "Loki wants to be with his friends, the other main cast members," which is pretty much the most generic lead-character motivation beat imaginable.

I mean, I can see Mobius, Sylvie, and even B-15 to an extent (I almost called her X-23), but how do Ouroboros and Casey even count as Loki's friends? Casey's just been a background guy giving exposition, and while O.B. is charming as heck, Loki's only known him for a subjective couple of days.

 

[Tuskin38]

I saw the whole power of friendship coming, but I thought it was going to be earlier and that'd how he'd find them and get them all to O.B.'s lab. I didn't expect a full rewind from before the disaster.

 

[Starkers]

So, is Casey supposed to be Frank Morris?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_1962_Alcatraz_escape_attempt#Frank_Morris

According that that page yes he is, and the other two prisoners were played by Benson and Moorhead

 

[Nightowl1701]

Sure, they tried to bring it to a character-based place here, but the essence of it was "Loki wants to be with his friends, the other main cast members," which is pretty much the most generic lead-character motivation beat imaginable.

Seemed to me Loki was stopping just short of blurting out “I want to be with you (Sylvie)!” And Sylvie knew it.

 

[Starkers]

I think when it comes to friends it's really Mobius and Sylvie he's talking about. With OB, Casey and B-15 it's more because they were there at the time, plus I mean who wouldn't be friends with Ob within minutes of meeting him?!

 

[Rich Watson]

Also, I'm really starting to boggle at how much character drift Loki has had now. In Season 1 he still felt like an alternative version of the Loki from the movies, but now, he literally could be a random dude coincidentally played by Tom Hiddleston. He rarely uses his powers, and displays none of the personality traits associated with him.

He is pretty much just The Doctor now.

 

[Set Harth]

Did Casey/Frank steal something from OB's desk?

 

[eschaton]

Did Casey/Frank steal something from OB's desk?

A useless lump of metal. I think it was just supposed to signify he was a thief.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

Was that record store in "1982"? The worker looked like he stepped out of the 21st Century with his hair and clothes, the little French Press on his desk. I mean it's not impossible someone looked like that but they put so much into all the other details it stuck out.

 

[UssGlenn]

at the music shop in the end, when Silvye was already listening to music and before the shop dude got spaghettified

• what/who walked into the shop? a normal timeline person or someone TVA/who remains story related?

Normal person who was immediately spaghettified, our first indication (after the MacDonald's bag) that something was wrong.

 

[Morpheus 02]

Normal person who was immediately spaghettified, our first indication (after the MacDonald's bag) that something was wrong.

And was seen spaghettified by the shop owner, who because of that didn't see that his cup was also spaghettified , hence it spilling onto the counter before also being spaghettified.

It happened so fast and unexpectedly, so definitely worth a rewatch

 

[Tuskin38]

I don't think it was the same kind of spaghettification as what happened to Timely, as well, we didn't see any bones or organs like we did with him. Also didn't seem to be in pain?

 

[UssGlenn]

I don't think it was the same kind of spaghettification as what happened to Timely, as well, we didn't see any bones or organs like we did with him. Also didn't seem to be in pain?

That's correct, Timely's was caused by exposure to violent temporal radiation, and these were caused by the whole timeline unraveling.

 

[Christopher]

I don't think it was the same kind of spaghettification as what happened to Timely, as well, we didn't see any bones or organs like we did with him.

I didn't see bones or organs, I just saw red and white strands that implied his innards in a non-graphic way.


Incidentally, it's an odd interpretation of "spaghettification" they're using here. The term comes from black hole physics, a reference to how the severe tidal stress close to a black hole -- the extreme difference in gravitational pull over a very short distance, like from one end of a person or spacecraft to the other -- would stretch out the object linearly until it was as thin and elongated as a single strand of spaghetti. It didn't mean dissolving into a whole "plate" of spaghetti as shown here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaghettification

 

[UssGlenn]

Incidentally, it's an odd interpretation of "spaghettification" they're using here. The term comes from black hole physics, a reference to how the severe tidal stress close to a black hole -- the extreme difference in gravitational pull over a very short distance, like from one end of a person or spacecraft to the other -- would stretch out the object linearly until it was as thin and elongated as a single strand of spaghetti. It didn't mean dissolving into a whole "plate" of spaghetti as shown here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaghettification

Did they actually use the term in the show? I don't remember. But really, what's a better alternative? "Pasta extruderification" doesn't have the same ring to it.

 

[Christopher]

Did they actually use the term in the show? I don't remember.

I don't recall if it's been spoken aloud, but it's printed on the warning labels and posters around the entrance to the Loom room (or whatever it's called), warnings that the temporal radiation poses a spaghettification hazard.

 

[Tuskin38]

I didn't see bones or organs, I just saw red and white strands that implied his innards in a non-graphic way.

Oh no, it was pretty graphic for a couple frames, you can see his ribcage

 

[The Nth Doctor]

I'm pretty sure we saw his skull, too.

 

[Velocity]

I expect to see time in a loop or something like that because of OB's name and Mobius's name. That has to be a hint to time loops.

 

[MikHutch]

Finally saw Loki S2E5. I couldn't help but think "Kevin" is Kevin Masterson