Did I wander in to the fan fiction subforum?Anakin created Luke. If anyone picked Tatooine, it was Obi-Wan.
Because none of this makes sense.
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Because none of this makes sense.
Sorry, I’m tired. I meant Palpatine created Anakin. Long day chasing my daughter, and I was half asleep when I typed that.
Edited them for the correct name.
Edited them for the correct name.
I'm working off of 16 hours of sleep for the last 4 days.
I'm beyond tired.
I'm beyond tired.
Authors of military fiction set in militaries that exist in the real world tend to avoid having the characters talk or issue orders in an authentic military manner since to be realistic about it would be redundant and be so filled with jargon to the point of being indecipherable to civilians, both of which can kill a story's narrative momentum.
As well as very repetitive to readers.
It sounds cool in theory but is highly niche.
It sounds cool in theory but is highly niche.
You’re claiming I’m asking for an extreme. I’m not interested in hearing military jargon nonstop. It would be nice to see them occasionally look at charts and issue the occasional helm commands when their attention is needed, but balanced in a way that is still accessible and interesting to the viewer.
I mean, you’d think bridges would at least have a holographic table that displays the ship and surrounding space that the captain would stand at to assess the situation.
I mean, you’d think bridges would at least have a holographic table that displays the ship and surrounding space that the captain would stand at to assess the situation.
I would think that given the high number of aliens and worlds that bridges would have more than one configuration.
Well for the old WEG Roleplaying Game, it was all written before the Prequels existed. There was only the OT to work with and whatever the now Legends EU authors could think up (with several of them using the WEGs for source material). The assumption was that the Empire had been very thorough with their purge of the Jedi, and during the timeframe of the Game, The Era of Rebellion and The Empire, it would be highly unlikely that the Players would be able to find any sources of Jedi Knowledge in their adventures. Largly because it was assumed the Empire burned all the books, and blew up all the colleges and whatnots the Jedi had. Finding an actual Jedi was basically impossible (Obi-wan and Yoda were suppose to be it at the time), with a few other survivors that tended to get killed not long after the Players encountered them, and a lot of crazy people that believed they were Jedi (or were scammers).
I mean back then it wasn't enough clear when the Empire started and all that. While we knew approximately Luke and Leia's age, it wasn't clear if the Empire had started at their birth or years before, with Anakin falling later. Anakin's age wasn't known. It was assumed he was closer to Obi-wan's age given Sebastian Shaw's age in Return of the Jedi. The OT films made it seem like The Empire was much older than we found out it was in the Prequels. Like Han Solo could have grown up in a galaxy were there were no Jedi, and the Force was just some crackpot idea of a long gone era....rather than The Clone Wars and Jedi Purge being something that happened when he was like ten years old.
This would be one instance where you would expect to find similarity in naval design because no matter what species or culture you are, the bridge is the nerve center and would have a navigation and sensor station where, short of the aliens not having a visual faculty, there would be some form of chart or display showing ship position relative to surrounding space. I get what you mean, though in terms of how stations like navigation, sensors, weapons control, etc would be laid out. The Empire, for instance, preferred a top-down approach with having the stations in trenches, though whether this was because of Imperial protocol or because of Kuati design influence I’m curious to know. Still would have been cool to see some form of ECDIS on the bridge, though. Lol
That’s the way the original trilogy felt on your second point. And it felt a lot cooler that way. I remember feeling that when the prequels came out, being surprised at how young the Empire was with Han growing up as a kid during the time of the Jedi’s final moments.
As to your first point—this is really I wish we would see more of the heretical branches of the Force users. In the EU, we knew the Dathomir witches and the Jensaari were around. Plus, in Rogue One, we had the Asian (Kuati) blind monk who still used the Force through brute self-discipline to some degree in deflecting blaster bolts, yet they killed him off—we need to see more of those types of people to show that while th e Empire focused singularly in the Jedi (for obvious reasons), there were still fringers who used the Force but weren’t Jedi, with their own traditions, despite the Jedi attempts to purge what they viewed as heresy.
That's what Skeleton Crew is meant to be.
There's been 3 new Haynes books released in the new canon. Which is 1 more than Legends had.
Though, the YT-1300 owners manual is basically an updated version of the original Millennium Falcon manual, incorporating new lore added with the Solo movie, but it does pull a bunch from the legends manual.
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/YT-1300_Millennium_Falcon_Owners'_Workshop_Manual
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/TIE_Fighter_Owners'_Workshop_Manual
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Rebel_Starfighters_Owners'_Workshop_Manual
While there hasn't been a new Haynes Death Star manual yet, the cutaway of the Death Star from that book was used in promotional art for Rogue One.
Speaking of cutaways, newer cutaway books have reused cutaway art from Legends cutaway books.
Palpatine didn't create Anakin in legends. The force itself created Anakin in response to Darth Plagueis manipulating life and death, to balance things out.
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Those books are not what was scheduled to be released prior to the Rat's acquisition of Star Wars. It was supposed to be Rebel / Empire / Rebel /Empire for the release so that we would get a ship from each as they went along. Now, we have the pleasure of shelling out yet another $45 for a book that adds little to the lore of CEC. I bought the Millennium Falcon Owner's Workshop Manual specifically because I wanted to learn more about CEC and their ship designs, not because Han Cholo might get a blurb in between its covers. That was one of the reasons I enjoyed the Essential Guide to Warfare so much. So much lore about all the background companies and details. Straight nerd porn.
Also, one more than Legends had? Not really, when they just copied the other two pre-existing Legends books, so they really only added a single book to the lore, not three. So Legends: 2, Rat EU: 1.
Reusing cutaway art is a euphemism on par with saying that Dr. Frankenstein was just recycling body parts from people who didn't need them anymore. It's not about the art, it's about the lore. I want to know who the CEO of CEC was during Palpatine's reign. I want to hear about CEC's lawyers kicking Imperial ass in a courtroom when the Empire tried saying CEC was purposely designing ships to be easily modified for use by pirates.
I love seeing the press releases from in-universe about the reactions of corporations to the Empire's encroachment and all the other little details that make the universe come to life. Give me the ads for Hoth Iced Ale and Corellian Blue. Give me Biscuit Baron promotional toys in their Jolly Meals and Mobquet speeders in racy red and chrome-plated glory. I want to know the hypertransciever frequency for the Abregado-Rae miners' consortium. All those inconsequential details that are nothing but fluff by themselves, but together make a tapestry of unparalleled depth and breadth.
And Palpatine manipulating life and death is essentially the same thing as saying Palpatine created Anakin. Semantics, when the point was that Palpatine was an obsessive-compulsive asshat who wouldn't have been unaware of the B'omarr monks' abilities. He picked Tatooine for a reason, and like all Sith, that decision would have been heavily influenced by years of observation and research. Sith aren't exactly impulsive when it comes to such planning. The fact is, regardless of the actual method of Anakin's creation, Palpatine would still have known every single thing there was to know about Tatooine that was remotely knowable, and would have kept that knowledge from Anakin in order to keep him locked in his meat and metal suit to keep him dependent upon Palpatine. That was the whole reason Anakin chafed under Palpatine and was constantly seeking a way to undermine him and take over viz a viz Starkiller, and later, Luke: "Give me your hand! Together, we can rule the galaxy as father and son!"
Palpatine as this overpowered fore planning god is one of Star Wars biggest irritants.
Well, one doesn't attempt to take over the galaxy without a lot of planning and forethought. It's not like just taking over some third-world banana republic. Plus, Palpatine's influence on the Force itself meant that the Imperial propaganda was infused with Sith energies/magics. Thus, when he died, all the Imperial officers suddenly lost that connection and experienced moments of confusion that the Alliance then took advantage of to mop up.
Still interesting to realize that Palpatine had not one but two methods of virtual immortality at his disposal, and he was disinclined to offer either to Anakin simply because of how much more powerful Anakin was than the Emperor.
Still interesting to realize that Palpatine had not one but two methods of virtual immortality at his disposal, and he was disinclined to offer either to Anakin simply because of how much more powerful Anakin was than the Emperor.
According to which EU? The real EU, or the bastardized version of the Rat's?
Per "Legends," Palpatine had a direct hand in bringing about Anakin's conception, either directly or by realizing that Anakin would be born as a result of his manipulation of the Force. Per the Rat's version, that goes away and we're left once again in the dark as to what exactly brought about Anakin's arrival on the universe's stage, other than the tired canard of "The universe brought balance to the Force."
Disney's position is ridiculous after the build up to imply the exact opposite of what is now claimed.
The idea that Palpatine would have been aware of a possible method of restoring Anakin that he instead chose to withhold only deepens his sinister presence and is a far better story to wrap up all the ends nicely rather than, "It's a mystery cuz we decided that Palpatine was just a stooge for the Force that had to deal with Anakin's arrival." That sounds stupid when held up against millennia of Sith being master manipulators and schemers. It literally makes Palpatine a cut-out villain that just happened across Anakin instead of realizing that his actions would naturally trigger a response from the Force and being wise enough to pinpoint where that response would arrive, which is bolstered by the fact that Palpatine was watching Anakin grow up the entire time on Tatooine.
And even if you remove Palpatine from the board, so to speak, there's still Anakin's ignorance of the B'omarr monks, despite having access to the biggest information gathering network in the galaxy. We know Vader was actively seeking a way to restore himself and get revenge on the Emperor (and even overthrow him). We know Palpatine deliberately kept Vader in the suit to keep him dependent instead of offering him the gift of using the Force to literally create a new body in the Sith method Palpatine employed on Byss. It's not a big leap of logic to see that the B'omarr monks were deliberately kept from Anakin to prevent him from gaining a method to escape his dependence on Palpatine.
Per "Legends," Palpatine had a direct hand in bringing about Anakin's conception, either directly or by realizing that Anakin would be born as a result of his manipulation of the Force. Per the Rat's version, that goes away and we're left once again in the dark as to what exactly brought about Anakin's arrival on the universe's stage, other than the tired canard of "The universe brought balance to the Force."
Disney's position is ridiculous after the build up to imply the exact opposite of what is now claimed.
The idea that Palpatine would have been aware of a possible method of restoring Anakin that he instead chose to withhold only deepens his sinister presence and is a far better story to wrap up all the ends nicely rather than, "It's a mystery cuz we decided that Palpatine was just a stooge for the Force that had to deal with Anakin's arrival." That sounds stupid when held up against millennia of Sith being master manipulators and schemers. It literally makes Palpatine a cut-out villain that just happened across Anakin instead of realizing that his actions would naturally trigger a response from the Force and being wise enough to pinpoint where that response would arrive, which is bolstered by the fact that Palpatine was watching Anakin grow up the entire time on Tatooine.
And even if you remove Palpatine from the board, so to speak, there's still Anakin's ignorance of the B'omarr monks, despite having access to the biggest information gathering network in the galaxy. We know Vader was actively seeking a way to restore himself and get revenge on the Emperor (and even overthrow him). We know Palpatine deliberately kept Vader in the suit to keep him dependent instead of offering him the gift of using the Force to literally create a new body in the Sith method Palpatine employed on Byss. It's not a big leap of logic to see that the B'omarr monks were deliberately kept from Anakin to prevent him from gaining a method to escape his dependence on Palpatine.
How would anyone have any idea "where that response would arrive"? ( And in "Legends", it was Plagueis and Palpatine together that were manipulating the Force around the time of Anakin's birth, not Palpatine alone. )
It was Kenobi who picked Tatooine. This happened on screen in TPM.
Says who? Maul is sent to Tatooine with no instructions whatsoever regarding Anakin, and as a result he nearly runs over Anakin with his speeder bike. One would think that all-knowing Palpatine would not have permitted even the possibility of such an event.
Throughout the EU, it is implied that Palpatine was keeping tabs on Anakin the whole time. Kenobi picked Tatooine? And how did he relay that information to Plageuis? Kenobi and Qui Gon stumbled over Anakin on a completely different mission right in the beginning of TPM (repairing the hyperdrive), so I'm not sure what movie you watched.
As to the idea of a caring Palpatine...lmao There is an entire encyclopedia of Star Wars content that describes the Sith as extremely harsh in their methods of training; had Maul hit Anakin, Palpatine would have shrugged and moved on with his plans for galactic domination even faster. He didn't need Anakin; Anakin was a happy circumstance in a side-plan that came to fruition earlier than planned.
And lastly, Palpatine was gifted in specific areas of the Force far beyond what Jedi could comprehend. He had the ability to see deeply into the future and even see the most likely outcomes. That is why he he could see the entire attack by the Rebel Alliance long before it happened. Mace Windu had a similar gift called Shatterpoint that allowed him to see points in the future "probability matrix" (for lack of a better term) that were "weak" and where things could change the outcomes.
Since the Rat cut away Byss and Palpatine's cloning project, that removes the entire rationale for why Palpatine waited as long as he did to kill Plagueis, which in turn throws everything else off. There, too, goes the dialogue that's actually in TPM by Palpatine to Anakin when he told him of Plagueis. So either, that has to come back, or they're going to have to do a lot more retconning in the future.
Where?
He didn't. There's no evidence that Plagueis had any interest in Tatooine.
The only reason they go to Tatooine is because Kenobi suggests it.
Exactly. Which completely fits with the scenario in which he had no knowledge of Anakin prior to the events of TPM.
With Legends gone, Plagueis surviving as long as he did is gone too ( unless it's reproduced in some obscure Disney-era source that I'm unaware of ).
Plagueis was never mentioned in TPM. Presumably, you mean ROTS. Nothing in ROTS is going anywhere.
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