Meh. The only real similarity is their reproduction process. Beyond that, they have nothing in common with a Xenomorph.
Your opinion on SNWs Gorn
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Reproduction process, the way they're filmed, that tail flippy from the ceiling thing, little girls being the sole survivor of a massacre...
Really it's just all in our heads.
(Ok, so this is low-hanging fruit...and not at all Star Trek)
Lieutenant Gorman: "All we know is that there's still no contact with the colony and that a xenomorph may be involved." Private Frost: "Excuse me, sir, a-a what?"
Lieutenant Gorman: "A xenomorph."
Corporal Hicks: "It's a bug hunt."
Lieutenant Gorman: "All we know is that there's still no contact with the colony and that a xenomorph may be involved." Private Frost: "Excuse me, sir, a-a what?"
Lieutenant Gorman: "A xenomorph."
Corporal Hicks: "It's a bug hunt."
Meh. I'll give you that "All Those Who Wander" is pretty obviously an..... "homage" to the Alien franchise. Beyond that, pretty much everything you listed are pretty common monster movie tropes.
Last I checked, Xenomorphs didn't operate Starships, wear spacesuits, or try and access computers.
Not much. We only have just seen our first adult Gorn. They just look a lot better, same as most aliens in modern Trek versus TOS.
If I don’t see a guy in a rubber suit next season, I’m boycotting the show
Whew, that was a close call, CBS. You would have lost a ton of revenue there.
Okay, that is a really awesome picture. I can just see it now on set, they film the Gorn trying to kill Spock and Chapel, the director then yells "Cut!" and then the Gorn becomes all "sup y'all?"
I could accept this reasoning if there were examples in Star Trek of such a situation happening to another civilization, say the Federation. The United Federation of Planets encompasses many species under one union. However, no other civilization encountered has referred to a Vulcan as Human. Vulcans are called Vulcans, Deltans are Deltans, Betazoids are Betazoids, etc... Hell, I do not recall a Reman ever being called a Romulan.
Always room for something new, especially in a show called "Strange New Worlds. "
The Borg.
There's a difference, though, in creators introducing something new and apologists engaging in mental and verbal gymnastics.
Meh, who cares? The mantra we are told to accept is "Continuity doesn't matter."
Honestly, it's not their visual appearance that I dislike. I'm fine with the "it worked for Klingons in 1979 (and 1986)" explanation.
Not really.
It's pretty much been my Trek experience since I had conversations around Kang vs. Kruge as a teen fan.
To me, fans engage in mental gymnastics all the time and sometimes use codified examples (Luke the FASA fusions) to support the gymnastics.
So what?
I engage with the material the same as I always have.
It matters but continuity isn't a straight jacket or carved in stone. Not every data point is created equal.
Engaging in mental gymnastics is half the fun of being a Trekkie. We've been doing it since the very beginning of the franchise.
And there are those who have complained about that, calling it "simplistic" and have expressed a yearning for a "more realistic" approach. Which we are now getting with the Gorn, only now the complaints are "but Star Trek hasn't worked like that in the past."
Which I guess proves the old adage that Star Trek fans will bitch about anything.
What does SNW's use of the Gorn really serve for SNW, anyway? As a fan of every beta canon depiction of the Gorn compared to the SNW depiction, I think the series would function exactly the same if the antagonist in question were an original species. Because if Kirk somehow shows up to rescue La'an from the Gorn now, I will not be happy.
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