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How would you re-imagine and reboot Enterprise?

who's in comand of the older earth ships then? these are warp ships and i don't think they give them to commanders.

They’re all Commanders or Generals or Majors, pulled from every walk of life, from the US Air Force to UESPA to MACO. The United Earth fleet isn’t going to be that big to begin with. In place of a Fleet Captain, it would be a Fleet Commander.

The point of establishing the captaincy with Archer would be to show distinction of his service in Starfleet.
 
who's in comand of the older earth ships then? these are warp ships and i don't think they give them to commanders.

This is something that pretty much makes no sense, because they never bothered to flesh out just how the Earth Starfleet formed or where the crew members of those other older warp 2 ships came from or what kind of experience they had being on a spacecraft. They just acted like all the other previous future-based Trek shows, with random crewmembers walking though hallways like being on a spacecraft was no big deal.

Heck, they didn't even mention Archer's or Trip's past other than their stints flying the NX prototypes. Just exactly what qualifications did they have to be the captain and chief engineer on the NX-01?
 
In retrospect, how cool would it have been to have Captain A.J. Robinson (Keith Carradine) in command of the NX-01? Half the time it seems like Archer only got the job because his daddy designed the engine.
 
They’re all Commanders or Generals or Majors, pulled from every walk of life, from the US Air Force to UESPA to MACO. The United Earth fleet isn’t going to be that big to begin with. In place of a Fleet Captain, it would be a Fleet Commander.

The point of establishing the captaincy with Archer would be to show distinction of his service in Starfleet.
so who gives a then brand new warp 2 ship to a commander - it's still a fully space going vessel and they don't have anything faster when they first face that problem - this dude (or dudess) will be a captain.

archer hasn't comanded anything before enterprise. he was a test pilot. obviously all of them where considered nx-01 skipper material. but putting a warp 2 captain on a warp 5 ship doesn't make much sense as it's all new to them but they are 15 years older than those test pilots.

In retrospect, how cool would it have been to have Captain A.J. Robinson (Keith Carradine) in command of the NX-01? Half the time it seems like Archer only got the job because his daddy designed the engine.
i don't think that could happen in any casting bureau, but i admit changing their roles and having archer fall off a rock ...
 
I can’t help but feel all these questions about ranks and capabilities would have been handily answered if they had been able to spend their first season on earth as originally planned…

I do think they leaned too heavily on the ghost of Henry Archer. I think they were trying for poignancy but I agree, @Jedi Marso, they instead made Archer sound like what the kids call a nepo baby.
 
Traditionally, the rank of the officer commanding a ship depends more on the size of the ship and the crew more than anything else.

In the age of sail, it was common for lieutenants to command smaller vessels, but to their crews they were 'the captain' and addressed as such. William Bligh was actually a lieutenant when he commanded the Bounty, although he commanded larger ships with the actual rank of captain later on, and was eventually a colony governor.

In the U.S. Navy in WWII, destroyer minesweepers were small enough to be commanded by lieutenant commanders, as were early destroyers. You usually didn't see an O-6 commanding a single warship until they were cruiser size or heavier. These days, Burke Class Destroyers are commanded by O-5's (commanders).

So, it's not at all out of bounds for early Starfleet ships in the Enterprise era to have been commanded by O-5's, or even O-4's if they were small enough. Their squadron commanders would have been captains. It could be that the NX-01 was the first ship large enough that they considered it appropriate for an O-6 to be in command.
 
I wasn't aware that had happened, that's very sad.


Recently I heard about another alternate ENT pitch from Doug Drexler; in this one, the Vulcans left Earth after First Contact and invited Humanity to find them when they were ready. Consequently, Humanity had spent the next 90 years preparing a voyage to discover Vulcan with little alien contact in between.

Again we run into a scale problem with Vulcan only being 16LY away, although the Humans don't necessarily know where to look at first. We also lose Phlox and T'Pol until Season 2 (though Phlox could come aboard in the pilot as a first contact incident on the way off of Earth.) I still think there's potential to this idea, though: the Humans are looking for what's basically a promised land where their first alien contactees hail from, and instead find a decadent bureaucracy being puppeted by the Romulans and at war with the Andorians.

Interesting; I'd never heard of Drexler's pitch before. I think it would have had potential (although I don't quite agree with the Romulan angle; that should have been left alone.) As for Phlox and T'Pol? John Billingsley could have played a human doctor and he would have brought the exact same charm and wit to the part as he did with Phlox. And T'Pol could have been the lone Vulcan, sent by her people, to oversee the humans on their quest.
 
Interesting; I'd never heard of Drexler's pitch before. I think it would have had potential (although I don't quite agree with the Romulan angle; that should have been left alone.) As for Phlox and T'Pol? John Billingsley could have played a human doctor and he would have brought the exact same charm and wit to the part as he did with Phlox. And T'Pol could have been the lone Vulcan, sent by her people, to oversee the humans on their quest.
better make her a spy and 'phlox' has to retrim her ears after archer has turned her
 
I can't see the Vulcans leaving the Earth unsupervised after First Contact.

Even if the surviving Enterprise-E crew did a thorough job of "cleaning up" the mess left behind by themselves (and by the Borg sphere) to avoid alerting the Vulcans that... something odd was going on, leaving a potentially dangerous warp-capable species to its own devices would be too much of a risk - as would leaving the place open for someone else to occupy the region.

Better to establish a de facto protectorate (or trusteeship) over the Sol system, so as to guide the Earth's reconstruction efforts without interference by other warp-capable species - at least until the humans can be trusted enough to handle their own affairs in a manner amenable to long-term Vulcan interests.

Or, at least, so it would have seemed as of 2063. As Ambassador Soval pointed out, it took the Vulcans themselves 1500 years to recover from the Time of Awakening; they were not expecting the Earth to get its own act together as relatively quickly as it did...

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Further, as shown in Regeneration, the Ent-E did not clean things up quite as well as they might have hoped. Indeed, while the "public" face of First Contact would be maintained by both sides, I could well imagine the Vulcan intelligence service being debriefed by Cochrane and by Lily Sloane on what really happened - and for this to lead to a joint Earth-Vulcan entity being tasked with keeping such time travel shenanigans under wraps... and with preparing future generations for the war that is to come.

So while I would not miss the Temporal Cold War being excised from a would-be re-imagining of Enterprise, I would not only keep the episode Regeneration intact; I would lean further into the long-term consequences of the events of Star Trek: First Contact, in terms of how this would lead to the creation of Section 31.

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On another note, this might be a side-effect of my interest in the Star Fleet Universe, but I find myself less keen on the concept of Earth fielding the first "saucer-and-nacelle" ships, prior to the creation of a unified Federation naval service.

Over in the SFU - where the NX-01 does not exist - old Earth ships do not have saucers, though a few (such as the old light cruiser) have familiar-looking warp nacelles. For that matter, none of the other "pre-Star Fleet" ships (Vulcan, Andorians, etc.) in that universe have saucers either. Rather, the first "saucer-and-nacelle" designs are intended from the outset to serve as the symbol of a United Star Fleet, and to mark the evolution of the Federation itself from an alliance into a government.

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To go back to the concept of an Enterprise re-imagining, I would have the Earth ships of the Romulan War be something other than "saucer-and-nacelle" designs, and instead move the onset of the NX-class forward a few decades, to become an early example of a "unified" hull design.

So, there'd be two options for a series:

One would be to set it in the 2150s on an Earth ship named Enterprise, yet not have it be an NX-class.

And two would be to move the story to, say, the 2200s, and to have the first NX-class hull (not named Enterprise) be introduced - as a Federation ship, with a mixed human, Vulcan, Andorian, and Tellarite crew - to mark a "half-step" between the ENT era and the era of the original series.

How does any of that sound?
 
To answer the OP, I wouldn't have had Borg or Ferengi, for sure.

I would've focused more on the conflicts between the Humans, Andorians, Tellarites, Romulans, etc., instead of the Temporal Cold war (though I don't hate the Suliban). Also, despite the bleating of the fandom, I didn't hate the augment virus being responsible for the Klingons losing their ridges. It's DS9's fault for pointing it out to begin with

I wouldn't have necessarily called it enterprise to begin with, but I like the ship design and would've treated it like an ancestor of the Akira Class.

Also, no sexualization of T'Pol. And tbh while I like Phlox, the Denobulans could've just been the Bolians (I saw that suggestion on Reddit).
 
I would Reboot but have it set 20 years after the formation of the Federation (so mid 2180s) and call it Star Trek: Archer. and Have the Enterprise NX-01 crew come back for one last adventure cause they deserve a decent ending. Archer would also be running for Federation president. considering he served from 2184 to 2192.
 
I also wouldn't mind them having a fleet of NX-refit (aka Columbia class) starships around.
It made me happy to see an NX Refit in the starfleet museum in Picard S3. As far as re-imagining things go, I'm preferring the idea that TATV never happened, and was just a weird 24th century holodeck adventure. The ship in the museum is the actual NX-01 Enterprise in its Romulan War refit config.
 
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