Having trouble wrapping my head around that,
Your opinion on SNWs Gorn
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I mean, I guess. But it doesn't justify it, nor does it explain McCoy's apologetic opinion being supported by the text. It's one thing to defend your territory. It's another to lure people in to said territory for the purpose of killing them further. One could be justified; the other is apparently a negotiation tactic or some other nonsense.
Not a fan but my opinion on them has improved to " lukewarm ". The jeopardy around them I think is well done but not really liking the interpretation of the Gorn themselves. Will likely never be a fan. Much preferred Species 8472 from Voyager. Probably my favorite " Totally alien " alien in Star Trek. Until they undid that a bit in " In the Flesh"
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We all know the Gorn in TOS are failed Augment Gorn using human DNA and the cure made them look like humans in a lizard rubber suit.
Inside the rubbery protective layer and underneath the protective lenses of the Gorn suit is the actual reptile. Why would their tech or space suits look anything like what a human would come up with? Maybe it gives them versatility of environments, or lets humanoids put their guard down with the more familiar form. It would also continue the Aliens motiff, where the space jockey space suit we saw for years was actually just a flight suit for a totally different humanoid inside it.
Still not buying it.
What's funny is the Star Trek Adventures RPG Beta Quadrant source book (which came out in 2018) already says the Gorn are made up several reptilian races that evolved on the same planet. They did that to explain the differences between TOS and ENT, but it retroactively gives them leeway once they implement SNW stuff.
Also mentions Gorn ships being equipped with powerful sensor jammers.
Also mentions Gorn ships being equipped with powerful sensor jammers.
Earlier I said the Gorn were way too derivative, and today I was trying to think of another show that did something so blatantly derivative.
It was Star Trek: Discovery, with it's version of Control very literally being Skynet.
Hmmmmm.
It was Star Trek: Discovery, with it's version of Control very literally being Skynet.
Hmmmmm.
Ohhhh good. It's a whole THREAD about the SNW Gorn!
You can jank it around to say "THIS was the olive branch after a decade of savage conflict!" but that's not how it's presented in the episode.
The SNW Gorn are fine. I've enjoyed the episodes. But they share a name with the guy in Arena and they're kind of lizard-y. NO, I'm not saying it had to be a rubber suit or even that it had to look like the TOS guy. I guess I'm OK with the writer's (was it Goldsman or someone else?) admitting that lining up with Arena isn't their aim. But I just wonder why it had to be the Gorn?
For any folk that think that Spock, Uhura, and now Scotty's reactions in Arena to hearing the word Gorn are perfectly credible and in keeping with their SNW history: Let's have an episode of SNW next season where they find out that a ship that they're in contact with is Gorn and have the characters have the same reactions. It would never happen if you held guns to the writer's heads.
Because Kirk's whole decision at the end is based on knowing only what he has learned in this episode. It's a classic Star Trek first contact (no, not that one).
You can jank it around to say "THIS was the olive branch after a decade of savage conflict!" but that's not how it's presented in the episode.
The SNW Gorn are fine. I've enjoyed the episodes. But they share a name with the guy in Arena and they're kind of lizard-y. NO, I'm not saying it had to be a rubber suit or even that it had to look like the TOS guy. I guess I'm OK with the writer's (was it Goldsman or someone else?) admitting that lining up with Arena isn't their aim. But I just wonder why it had to be the Gorn?
For any folk that think that Spock, Uhura, and now Scotty's reactions in Arena to hearing the word Gorn are perfectly credible and in keeping with their SNW history: Let's have an episode of SNW next season where they find out that a ship that they're in contact with is Gorn and have the characters have the same reactions. It would never happen if you held guns to the writer's heads.
That doesn't mean that they have to continue doing it.
Several thousand years of human literature tells me they will continue doing so.
Goldsman liked that TOS episode.
Season 1 of TOS is canon.
Strange New Worlds is canon.
Lower Decks is canon.
Just because something seems contrary to a previous episode doesn't mean they suddenly exist in two different continuities. They contradict and exist in the same canon. Just like TNG and DS9 didn't split into different continuities over the Trill.
Something I've wondered is why they did not keep the rubber suit. As they could have kept it, but CGI’d the face.
We've yet to see a Gorn dressed only in a skirt on SNW.
One concept of the Tzenkethi is a big, six limbed lizard thing.
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