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Spoilers The Ships of Lower Decks

The more I look at that ship, the more I’m thinking that the class is a mid-point between the Ambassador and the Galaxy. It’s got the round Ambassador saucer but the deflector of the Galaxy. The nacelles are unique though and not evocative of either class. But then again we’ve seen other nacelle designs like the Cheyenne class and the Raven type that aren’t the same as the Ambassador or Galaxy types.
In a Venom Geek video, it was suggested that the California was a test bed for the Galaxy development project. I think the pod between the nacelles was a sort of precursor to the Nebula configuration, with the deflector dish being a specific piece of equipment that was tested.

A test bed that was promising enough to be put in production. Useful as a multi-role utility vehicle.

I think the Freedom class was another test bed. Circular saucer, with a Galaxy style warp nacelle.
 
There are some much older California-class ships with registration numbers more in line with early 24th century Excelsior or early Ambassador-class starships.

The California class registries cannot be used as proof of anything. There are brand-new Cali class ships as of 2380 with registries of 1XXXX, 7XXXX and 8XXXX.
 
Starfleet's not going to put the entire active fleet on a fleet review exercise confined to a single planet in a single system, even though that planet is the capital of the Federation. Other ships had other assignments, some of which would be ongoing field work, others on similar PR exercises elsewhere across the Federation...and there's plenty of work for the California class ships in service as of 2401 to be doing!
 
Well, they're all gone by 2401, as none of them were in attendance during Frontier Day, when all of Starfleet was there.
Or it's perfectly consistent with the idea presented quite frequently in Lower Decks that the California class ships are the losers of Starfleet. "All Starfleet ships summoned to Sol system for Frontier Day celebrations. California class excluded."
 
"Someone's got to keep doing the field work! This means you if you're on starbase or outpost duty, or serving on a Hope or California class ship!"
 
The California class registries cannot be used as proof of anything. There are brand-new Cali class ships as of 2380 with registries of 1XXXX, 7XXXX and 8XXXX.

Which proves again that the fixation some fans have with chronological registries is just wishful thinking. Writers of Trek of old were just arbitrary with them, and I can't help but wonder if the writers of LD know this and do it on purpose now. :D

Also, in-universe... For all we know when a ship is mothballed its registry number becomes open again for a new ship? I don't know, just a stupid thought.
 
Which proves again that the fixation some fans have with chronological registries is just wishful thinking. Writers of Trek of old were just arbitrary with them, and I can't help but wonder if the writers of LD know this and do it on purpose now. :D

As I mentioned before, I respectfully disagree, as there had been 15 continuous years (or 21 if you don’t consider series overlap) and 526 episodes of TNG, DS9, and VOY where the registry scheme for ships was pretty much consistent throughout that entire time, because the same people were in charge of stuff like that; people who actually cared about minutiae like this and painstakingly documented it in notes and official publications. It wasn’t the scriptwriters’ job to come up with registry numbers for ships; it was the art department and VFX personnel.

As for LDS, I get the impression that the wildly inconsistent registries for the California class ships aren’t because of some perceived notion of arbitrariness that didn’t actually exist. I think they’re just meant to be in-jokes that the audience doesn’t know or care about.

Also, in-universe... For all we know when a ship is mothballed its registry number becomes open again for a new ship?

Based on the evidence from 1966 onward, that doesn’t seem to be the case, at least not until the 32nd century of DSC season 4, where future Starfleet went from 6-digit NCC numbers back to 4-digits.
 
As I mentioned before, I respectfully disagree, as there had been 15 continuous years (or 21 if you don’t consider series overlap) and 526 episodes of TNG, DS9, and VOY where the registry scheme for ships was pretty much consistent throughout that entire time, because the same people were in charge of stuff like that; people who actually cared about minutiae like this and painstakingly documented it in notes and official publications. It wasn’t the scriptwriters’ job to come up with registry numbers for ships; it was the art department and VFX personnel.

As for LDS, I get the impression that the wildly inconsistent registries for the California class ships aren’t because of some perceived notion of arbitrariness that didn’t actually exist. I think they’re just meant to be in-jokes that the audience doesn’t know or care about.



Based on the evidence from 1966 onward, that doesn’t seem to be the case, at least not until the 32nd century of DSC season 4, where future Starfleet went from 6-digit NCC numbers back to 4-digits.

It's a make believe universe. They can make believe whatever they want. Just like how fans can make believe what ever they want to make in their head boommachine.

Boommachine being a silly play of words on the word canon/cannon. See what I did there?

Anyway, still make believe. Shipnumbers aren't important. Characters and stories are.
 
It's a make believe universe. They can make believe whatever they want. Just like how fans can make believe what ever they want to make in their head boommachine.

Boommachine being a silly play of words on the word canon/cannon. See what I did there?

Anyway, still make believe. Shipnumbers aren't important. Characters and stories are.

They can all be important. Yes, most people do not care about the minutiae. I personally do. I’m not sure why you feel the need to be smug towards me or disparage the behind-the-scenes work of people like Okuda, Sternbach, Drexler, et. al because I happen to care about stuff like this and you don’t.
 
They can all be important. Yes, most people do not care about the minutiae. I personally do. I’m not sure why you feel the need to ridicule me or disparage the behind-the-scenes work of people like Okuda, Sternbach, Drexler, et. al because I happen to care about stuff like this and you don’t.

Actually, you are right. That's on me. This is an important factor of Star Trek to some fans, and It is far from ok for me to say what I said earlier.
I truly apologize for that. We should all enjoy Star Trek in our own ways, and these little facts are important to you. Me saying it shouldn't be important was insensitive of me. I am deeply sorry for that.
 
I would think some of the California-class are actually old ships from that days of USS Ambassador. They are just updating them from time to time. Starfleet builds more since the design works and it's low priority.
 
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