He did go on to quip that they should definitely do an episode that somehow involved the TOS Enterprise bridge, presumably because it occurred to him that it would be a "big swing."
Your opinion on SNWs Gorn
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He did go on to quip that they should definitely do an episode that somehow involved the TOS Enterprise bridge, presumably because it occurred to him that it would be a "big swing."
I like this producer. He's exciting.He did go on to quip that they should definitely do an episode that somehow involved the TOS Enterprise bridge, presumably because it occurred to him that it would be a "big swing."
There are people who actually do think SNW will end with the Enterprise refitted to look exactly like in TOS. They are a minority, but a very vocal one.
Yes.
We're all so lucky to have the man who wrote Batman and Robin bringing the same level of writing quality and decision making to the Gorn in the Star Trek universe.
If you can crossover with an animated show and do a musical, is it really that outlandish to believe that they could reference or at least pay homage to the original Enterprise in that way? I know that's all but certain not to happen now since Goldsman is adamant in this being his own version of Star Trek, but somehow other legacy IP science-fiction series have no problem mixing new and old (e.g., Doctor Who has never had issues acknowledging its past and connecting the old wacky sets with the modern ones).
I thought they were fine for that one off Alien homage episode (a very good episode) but they are one of those Trek entities that I really don't think should be delved too deep into (S31, Borg etc.).
As others have said I find it hard to reconcile the animalistic Gorn and the spaceship building Gorn.
As others have said I find it hard to reconcile the animalistic Gorn and the spaceship building Gorn.
I don't believe the Gorn were savage in TOS.
They destroyed an outpost, then on the planet, communicated their reasoning, showed their aggressive nature, and told Kirk to surrender. Brutal, but hardly savage.
The more I think about it, the more I feel the Gorn is being fleshed out in a corner of ST that hasn't been done before. I mean there is no other race that has this level of brutality, combined with intelligence. The TOS Klingons were pretty efficient that way, but they weren't as physically dominating. The closest I see is species 8472.
Lol...I was a little kid watching TOS reruns, and I don't want the SNW Enterprise to end on TOS. I'd be fine with a flashback episode or some creative form of homage. I mean, who wants 2 colored cardboard panels moving against each other to simulate lights changing?
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Could I ask where you pulled this quote from? I'd love to be able to link to it for future "spirited" debates. There's a whole subset of idiots on Facebook who are convinced that the show is going to "correct itself" and make everything look like 1966.
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That'd be an awesome name for a band.Dream crusher
We’re so lucky to have the man who won an Oscar for A Beautiful Mind bringing the same level of writing quaility and decision making to the Gorn in the Star Trek Universe.
I don't think Goldsman's writing is always the best, but he always seem to write to match the rest of the product. Batman and Robin is amazingly bad and I love it, but a better script wouldn't have saved the movie, and what he wrote matches up well with what Schumacher was making. I like a lot of what he ended up writing for Fringe, and if there's an aspect of Strange New Worlds that feels very Fringe-like right now it's the Gorn. But I don't know if I'd attribute too much to him. Of all the post-Disco Trek shows Strange New Worlds feels the most consensus driven rather than having one person's stamp on it like Fuller or Matalas, or even Lower Decks with McMahan.
I really like their ships.
The Gorn in particular are making me want to go back and rewatch TOS. I talked about this elsewhere, but I only ever caught TOS as a teenager watching Trek reruns on the Space Network. I've seen all of it (or at least the modern TV edits, which I've learned are shortened by something like 10 minutes), but not in any particular order and not for a long time.
Now that we have no new Trek incoming for an extended period of time in the wake of the writers' strike, I think it's time for me to watch the full edits of TOS and fill in all the gaps.
I didn't have a problem with anything SNW did with them, since I want ST to embrace the modern CGI possibilities of alien races that less obviously resemble a human wearing makeup. I don't view any of it as retcon so much as looking at things with a fresh set of eyes. But who knows, maybe I'll feel differently when I go back and watch the dude in the rubber dinosaur mask. It certainly had that quaint charm to it.
Now that we have no new Trek incoming for an extended period of time in the wake of the writers' strike, I think it's time for me to watch the full edits of TOS and fill in all the gaps.
I didn't have a problem with anything SNW did with them, since I want ST to embrace the modern CGI possibilities of alien races that less obviously resemble a human wearing makeup. I don't view any of it as retcon so much as looking at things with a fresh set of eyes. But who knows, maybe I'll feel differently when I go back and watch the dude in the rubber dinosaur mask. It certainly had that quaint charm to it.
Can't stand the Gorn ships - what do they even look like? Coral? B5 did better coral ships 30 years ago.
Can we please stop with the spinning already?
The creature design is - a thing. It's certainly disgusting.
I'd be o.k. with the Klingons launching an Exterminatus on the Gorn while the Federation hides in a corner. Or, since we care so little for canon, let the Hirogen do it. I don't want to watch the Enterprise crew interact with the Gorn anymore.
Can we please stop with the spinning already?
The creature design is - a thing. It's certainly disgusting.
I'd be o.k. with the Klingons launching an Exterminatus on the Gorn while the Federation hides in a corner. Or, since we care so little for canon, let the Hirogen do it. I don't want to watch the Enterprise crew interact with the Gorn anymore.
They can always go the memory-wipe angle like other IP's have done (C-3PO in Star Wars, Lex Luthor on Smallville) if they really, really want to keep the Gorn a secret until Arena.
Personally I prefer to adhere to, and what was recently implied, any changes, whether visually or canonically, are just the result of time travel hijinks. In one timeline everything looks like TOS with certain dates and events happening one way, in another it's like SNW, then someone messes with something and we're back to TOS.
Personally I prefer to adhere to, and what was recently implied, any changes, whether visually or canonically, are just the result of time travel hijinks. In one timeline everything looks like TOS with certain dates and events happening one way, in another it's like SNW, then someone messes with something and we're back to TOS.
Why? Again I failed to see this idea that the Star Trek franchise continuity has been so airtight. That hasn't been the case for any Star Trek series from TOS through ENT; and nothing has changed with the new series of streaming Star Trek. It's always interesting to see that anytime they do a minor retcon, the small item being retconned suddenly becomes a major canonical issue for some folks.
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