Kicking? Knowing him (and I don't beyond what I've gleaned from MA, having not watched LD), I could see him being sent back in time by the DTI, dressed in a butterfly suit, to fix the timeline by actually being a butterfly flapping his wings.
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I always had a bit of a problem with the Spock & Saavik shipping. Saavik was young enough to be Spock’s daughter and she was quite obviously his student as much Valeris was. The only part of Star Trek III that rubs me wrong is the Pon Farr scene. Fans make a lot out of the scene than Nimoy actually provided since we don’t see anything beyond the hand stroking and both are still fully clothed in the post scene. Since the “pregnancy’ never made it to the final cut of the next film and Saavik wasn’t showing even a little 3 months after the “Genesis Affair” then it was just a quick “exit stage left” for Saavik, who probably already made her statement to the Federation Bigwigs and went to another assignment.
Again, everyone has their own thing, but if Spock did marry, I am fully satisfied with it being someone we never met. We don’t need everyone to be connected to everyone else.
Having said that, Kirk's Nexus fantasy really needed to be someone other than this Antonia. Christ, would name dropping Carol Marcus been so bad? They recast Picard’s relatives, a different actress voiceover wouldn't have been the wort thing ever. I also would imagine Kirk's strongest wish would be to be reunited with his own son… but that’s a totally different topic.
Again, everyone has their own thing, but if Spock did marry, I am fully satisfied with it being someone we never met. We don’t need everyone to be connected to everyone else.
Having said that, Kirk's Nexus fantasy really needed to be someone other than this Antonia. Christ, would name dropping Carol Marcus been so bad? They recast Picard’s relatives, a different actress voiceover wouldn't have been the wort thing ever. I also would imagine Kirk's strongest wish would be to be reunited with his own son… but that’s a totally different topic.
No!!!!!! Nuh-uh!!! There are only two women in the galaxy!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (And by the way, did it have to be a woman?)
Tedious.
Extremely. It's possible to have views on how SNW fits with TOS without raising those views everywhere. Why, look! That's my situation! I have a view! And I don't raise it in every thread.
Agreed. And obviously Spock married Janice Rand.No!!!!!! Nuh-uh!!! There are only two women in the galaxy!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (And by the way, did it have to be a woman?)
Extremely. It's possible to have views on how SNW fits with TOS without raising those views everywhere. Why, look! That's my situation! I have a view! And I don't raise it in every thread.
Spock and McCoy?
Hmmm... pairing characters who were canonically hetero might be a tough sell. George Takei revealed that he had played Sulu as straight, so he wasn't really down with him being gay in the Kelvin films.
(I make an exception for Garak/Bashir, since Robinson was playing Garak as interested, and both actors were at least open to the possibility)
To be honest, I really couldn't fanthom who a gay Spock might have hooked up with. Kirk would be the too obvious choice. At least with McCoy, you could reinterpret the bickering as sexual tension.
No, she wasn't.
I remember reading in the 80s that they said they had been sure to leave in little hints of a frisson between Spock and Saavik in STII and I thought, where? I guess it was meant to be there.
Her lineage was never actually mentioned on screen, so being half Romulan isn't really any more "canonical" than her maternity leave. Also, Robin Curtis played her as if she were full Vulcan. Although, it should have been to explain some of the more emotional aspects Kirstie Alley peppered through her performance. Like crying at Spock's funeral.
It wasn't.
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But true.
Tedious.
Saavik may have been Spock's student at some point, but in the movies she was simply his friend, fellow officer, and protege. They are both adults here. For them to spend time together, realize they are compatible, and eventually marry, is entirely normal and proper.
And, dare I say, logical.
Saavik in TWOK is younger, fresher out of school, than Spock was in "The Cage." Thirteen years until TOS Season 1, plus 15 years beyond that for TWOK, is 28 years. So I figure Spock must be about 30 years older than Saavik.
What's more: Spock's resurrection in ST3, subject to all the vagaries of Genesis Wave radiation, has been used to explain why Leonard Nimoy aged visibly at a faster rate than a Vulcan would. And Spock's human half seems like it too would age him faster than a Vulcan. Double whammy.
So that's 30 years older, plus Spock's accelerated aging, versus Saavik the hot young thing. He might want to be with her, but she'd be like, "I don't think of you that way."
Maybe if Spock comes from money, she could see it his way. And he did mention "This is the land of my family" in "Amok Time." So anything is possible.
Spock knocked quite a few women off their feet in his day, whether he reciprocated or not. I don't see Saavik being immune to his charms. And let's face it, no matter which actress you point to, Saavik was a beautiful woman and had a big Vulcan brain on her.
No.
Spock was definitely a mentor to Saavik so him being involved with her is kind of creep.
Again, remember Vulcan lifespans. When he's 60 and she's 30... yeah. Kind of creepy. But when he's 90 and she's 60? Less so. And when he's 140 and she's 110, which is what they probably were by the time Picard was in Starfleet? Seems fine to me.
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