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Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)


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I'm guessing 'The Marvels' will move to next May and DP to Cap 4's slot. (Assuming the strikes don't drag on more than a few months.)
Actually, I'd be surprised if The Marvels would be delayed at all, especially that far back. The film is already complete and the promotion campaign is fully running.
 
Actually, I'd be surprised if The Marvels would be delayed at all, especially that far back. The film is already complete and the promotion campaign is fully running.
Will the actors be available to promote it, though? Just wondered, as the cast of Oppenheimer all walked off the red carpet as soon as the strike was announced. I mean, I guess you can promote it other ways without the actors, but that’d be pretty unusual.
 
Will the actors be available to promote it, though? Just wondered, as the cast of Oppenheimer all walked off the red carpet as soon as the strike was announced. I mean, I guess you can promote it other ways without the actors, but that’d be pretty unusual.
That's a good point. I'm just thinking on a long-term marketing campaign which had already been going on for at least a month or two. It would be equally weird to suddenly halt it. Especially for a film that's already done and has already been pushed back once. There's also whatever momentum that may or may not come directly out of Secret Invasion.
 
Will the actors be available to promote it, though? Just wondered, as the cast of Oppenheimer all walked off the red carpet as soon as the strike was announced. I mean, I guess you can promote it other ways without the actors, but that’d be pretty unusual.

It's more that if they don't delay it, they won't have anything to release in 2024.
 
Will the actors be available to promote it, though? Just wondered, as the cast of Oppenheimer all walked off the red carpet as soon as the strike was announced. I mean, I guess you can promote it other ways without the actors, but that’d be pretty unusual.

No.

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Does this mean The Runaways will never be seen on either platform again?

Over in 'And the Next Cancelled Show' thread, I posted this a couple of weeks ago. . .

There was an article in the 'Hollywood Reporter' that says that if Disney+ removes 70+ shows/movies from its streaming platforms it can claim a $1.5 billion tax write-off; which it hopes will help the platform turn a profit by 2024.

A partial list includes - the TV series 'Willow', 'Y: The Last Man', 'The Mighty Ducks', 'Turner and Hooch', 'The Mysterious Benedict Society', 'Artemis Fowl', 'Earth to Ned', 'Black Beauty (2020)' and 'Cheaper by the Dozen (2022)', all pulled May 26th.

I guess you can include 'Runaways' as well.
 
Damn, I guess I'll probably never get to finish Runaways then, I was part way season 2 and had been planning to get back to it and finish one of these days.
I'm sad to see Black Beauty go too, it was really good, and Ashley Avis's creation of The Wild Spirit Foundation could have been a nice way to bring more attention to it.
Will the actors be available to promote it, though? Just wondered, as the cast of Oppenheimer all walked off the red carpet as soon as the strike was announced. I mean, I guess you can promote it other ways without the actors, but that’d be pretty unusual.
I doubt just not having the actors around to promote the movies will be enough to get finished movies pushed back. There are still plenty of non-writer directors and producers around to do promotion. The new Haunted Mansion premiered last night and the director was at the premiere.
Does social media ban include all posts or just stuff promoting productions they're working on? Because at least some of the actors I follow on IG appear to still be posting.
 
Does social media ban include all posts or just stuff promoting productions they're working on? Because at least some of the actors I follow on IG appear to still be posting.

They can post but they cannot post or promote a show that they are in. A lot of them are posting stuff about the strike which they can do.
 
They can post but they cannot post or promote a show that they are in. A lot of them are posting stuff about the strike which they can do.
Can they promote something they are not in? I am thinking in particular if WIlliam Zsabka of Cobra Kai can do in a Johnny Lawrence voice "HashBrown team Blue Beetle" that could help Xolo's movie (which it would have needed anyway).
 
The government really needs to investigate the studios' accounting practices. Deliberately burying a show or movie to get a tax write-off for the "loss" is ethically equivalent to burning down your store to collect the fire insurance.

The tax code exists to protect corporations and the wealthy and let them avoid giving it to the government because of loopholes intentionally allowed to remain by the wealthy/corporations paying off government to keep it.

I mean you got the wealthy elite buying private jets and yachts under LLCs and then using them for their own personal (or friends/associates) then having that LLC operate as a 'loss' then using that loss to off-set their actual tax burden.

You'll see them set-up a private art gallery, or charity, or something in a 'vacation' spot so then they can visit that 'vacation' spot and claim it all as business expense.
 
Can they promote something they are not in? I am thinking in particular if WIlliam Zsabka of Cobra Kai can do in a Johnny Lawrence voice "HashBrown team Blue Beetle" that could help Xolo's movie (which it would have needed anyway).
They can just keep doing promotional non-promotions like this one.
https://movieweb.com/xolo-mariduena-wont-promote-blue-beetle-supporting-strike/

"I can't promote my new movie Blue Beetle coming out Aug 18 because of the strike. It's such a shame as it's such a fantastic movie that should be on the big screen but alas I can't promote it."
 
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Exactly. We need to get money out of politics.

Sadly, that's a bit like an argument I did with my fellow progressive anarchists. "Yes, friend, it would be nice to be against the moderates we don't like. To go for a stronger progressive agenda. But first we have to beat the actual fascists that are by no means discredited or weak in the public eye or halls of power."

Which is to say, "Yes, that'd be nice but it seems a far goal given the current political climate."
 
Sadly, that's a bit like an argument I did with my fellow progressive anarchists. "Yes, friend, it would be nice to be against the moderates we don't like. To go for a stronger progressive agenda. But first we have to beat the actual fascists that are by no means discredited or weak in the public eye or halls of power."

Which is to say, "Yes, that'd be nice but it seems a far goal given the current political climate."

A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step. What matters isn't how far the goal is, what matters is that you strive toward it, one step at a time, without giving up or getting diverted from it.
 
The government really needs to investigate the studios' accounting practices. Deliberately burying a show or movie to get a tax write-off for the "loss" is ethically equivalent to burning down your store to collect the fire insurance.

The tax code exists to protect corporations and the wealthy and let them avoid giving it to the government because of loopholes intentionally allowed to remain by the wealthy/corporations paying off government to keep it.

I mean you got the wealthy elite buying private jets and yachts under LLCs and then using them for their own personal (or friends/associates) then having that LLC operate as a 'loss' then using that loss to off-set their actual tax burden.

You'll see them set-up a private art gallery, or charity, or something in a 'vacation' spot so then they can visit that 'vacation' spot and claim it all as business expense.

Like Christopher's example... "fire insurance" is needed, and is a big help for those who legitimately need it; otherwise their financial lives are ruined, and can hurt others.

And same with tax write offs, for legitmate situations... say a film that centered on a particular actor who dies... there would be legitimate reasons why they couldn't finish, and may have to "trash" the film (perhaps Alec Baldwin's movie Rust, becuase of the deaths).

But yeah, the abuses where are seeing now... we need politicians who can understand people of different views, to be able to tie them together to form a coalition, at least on tat particular tax issue.

I can see politicians both from the economic conservative as well as the economic left finding their own reasons to both support something preventing a WB-D type of dumping.
 
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