Do you think SNW will ever show Pike's Post-"Menagerie" life?

[JonnyQuest037]

So the big thing that sets SNW Pike apart from his previous incarnations is that he knows what fate has in store for him. He knows he's going to be crippled saving cadets after being exposed to Delta Rays on a Class J Starship when the baffle plates rupture. He even knows that names of all the cadets he's destined to save. So he's a man living on borrowed time, trying to make every moment count.

So do you think SNW will throw us another curveball at the end of the series and show us that Pike somehow recovers from his injuries in the years after "The Menagerie"? After all, Pike was never even mentioned in the Prime Universe after "The Menagerie," so AFAIK, his future after that is up for grabs. (I know some of the novels & comics have covered that, though.)

So what do you think? Will the SNW creative team go there, or will they just leave Pike's fate a bittersweet/tragic one?

 

[UssGlenn]

I would be surprised if the last episode didn't have a flash forward of a movie era uniformed Kirk and Spock showing up on Talos 4 and telling Pike and Vina that medical advances allow both of them to be healed. Ill bet they even have the medical advance caused by a discovery Chapel makes in archeological medicine.

 

[Finn]

Nah. Have Discovery do a clip of an very old Pike, in TNG season 1-2 uniform giving a speech at the Academy, standing and no chair....due to reasons.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Ill bet they even have the medical advance caused by a discovery Chapel makes in archeological medicine.

From the Fabrini.
I was just thinking that Chapel's knowledge of archeological medicine could have been brought up in "For the World Is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky".

 

[Paul755]

I’d actually be shocked if we get any type of happy ending with Pike getting to return to Starfleet.

I could see them doing some scenes of him living on Talos with Vina post-Menagerie but that’s it. I think it’s also very possible we never see the accident in real time or anything that happens after. The finale could pull a TOS/TNG and just show the Enterprise warping on to its next adventure.

 

[JonnyQuest037]

I’d actually be shocked if we get any type of happy ending with Pike getting to return to Starfleet.

Pike getting a happy ending and returning to Starfleet aren't necessarily the same thing.

 

[Nerys Myk]

They could end with the accident and maybe Spock getting notified by Una, setting up the Menagerie.

 

[Paul755]

Pike getting a happy ending and returning to Starfleet aren't necessarily the same thing.

very true. I was just referencing the idea of him speaking at the Academy or something. Not dumping on the idea or anything I’d just be shocked if they went that route.

 

[Turtletrekker]

I would like the final episode to essentially recreate The Menagerie from the perspective of the rest of the Strange New Worlds characters, who of course all played their part in the conspiracy to steal Pike away to Talos 4. Sort of like Trials and Tribble-lations, except instead of inserting the new characters into old footage, they can recreate the old scenes with the new actors.

 

[Jedi Marso]

Personally, I'd like to see the show end before the accident. Pike's Enterprise continues on her way, leaving the door open for a few more 'interim' Pike TV or movie projects. If you end with the accident, you slam the door on his arc.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Personally, I'd like to see the show end before the accident. Pike's Enterprise continues on her way, leaving the door open for a few more 'interim' Pike TV or movie projects. If you end with the accident, you slam the door on his arc.

I thought of that. My idea of jumping ahead and recreating The Menagerie from the perspective of the Strange New Worlds characters has the advantage of jumping forward several years ala These are the Voyagers on Enterprise (but hopefully better executed), which leaves lots of room for reunion movies and such.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I thought of that. My idea of jumping ahead and recreating The Menagerie from the perspective of the Strange New Worlds characters has the advantage of jumping forward several years ala These are the Voyagers on Enterprise (but hopefully better executed), which leaves lots of room for reunion movies and such.

That would be interesting.

 

[JonnyQuest037]

I would like the final episode to essentially recreate The Menagerie from the perspective of the rest of the Strange New Worlds characters, who of course all played their part in the conspiracy to steal Pike away to Talos 4. Sort of like Trials and Tribble-lations, except instead of inserting the new characters into old footage, they can recreate the old scenes with the new actors.

Oh, now that's interesting! I like this idea a lot.

 

[Mudd]

Just take him to Omicron Ceti III.

 

[FederationHistorian]

I think Pike with be taken to Talos, and from the perspective of the crew, they will say goodbye. Meanwhile, Pike will imagine his crew is on Talos with still him when no one is there, and will recalls his missions with them, and it will be left ambiguous if the events on SNW, and by extension DIS S2, actually happened.

 

[vulcancicada]

Maybe the Talosians learned from their errors with Vina and fix both of them with the help of Chapel and the customer service aliens. And then they all waltz off into the sunset together.

 

[Guy Gardener]

I have decided that Strange New Worlds is set after the Menagerie.

The change in asthetic, the change in gender and ethnicity, it's just the Talosians and Pike juggling his perceptions and memory before replaying his greatest hits.

This means that every woman he talks to, and maybe some of the men too, in every episode, is really Vina, trying to seduce him.

 

[Mudd]

Over time, the temptation to revisit Pike's fate may well become irresistible to the producers whether it's the best storytelling idea or not - especially if Paramount looks to do a post-SNW streaming movie featuring the characters. "Return to Talos" would be quite the promotion hook, hmm?

 

[JonnyQuest037]

"Return to Talos" would be quite the promotion hook, hmm?

To hardcore Trekkers, sure. To the general public, not at all.

 

[Mudd]

To hardcore Trekkers, sure. To the general public, not at all.

If you're talking theatrical, that matters. Broad as SNW's potential appeal might or might not be, the studio's been dialing streaming product in to focus on attracting a subscription base of the long-time hard-core. There's no more plausible explanation for either PIC III or SFA - or for the mid-course change in STD's format.