Spoilers The Flash (2023) -Review and Discussion Thread

[Rich Watson]

We won't know for certain until Monday but it's on track for the largest ever second-week drop for a movie with a budget over 50m. And in fact cinemas are pulling it off their large format screens which are been given back to Spider-Verse instead. (IMAX is a different situation as those are locked-in deals.)

The only question now is how quickly it will wind up heading to streaming?

 

[Tosk]

The only question now is how quickly it will wind up heading to streaming?

Tomorrow.

 

[Supervisor 194]

Fandango is offering buy one, get one free tickets for The Flash.

 

[JD]

I know that it isn't an episode of Law and Order, but I'm surprised that they found him guilty in the original Timeline.

The son could even testify that the father had gone to the supermarket!

One person's testimony most likely won't be enough get a not guilty verdict, especially when that person is the suspect's son and wasn't in the room when the murder happened.

 

[StarMan]

We won't know for certain until Monday but it's on track for the largest ever second-week drop for a movie with a budget over 50m. And in fact cinemas are pulling it off their large format screens which are been given back to Spider-Verse instead. (IMAX is a different situation as those are locked-in deals.)

The only question now is how quickly it will wind up heading to streaming?

It's been a blood bath at the box office, with Spider-Verse perhaps the only film in the mix of recent big budget release on track to turn a profit.

I think lackluster predictions were well-founded given all the variables in play, but even the more pessimistic predictions weren't this miserable. Going by Boxofficemojo's stats, this is about another week away from cracking 100mil domestic. Given the drop off and competition from current and soon-to-be releases, a measly 250 - 300mil total haul might be all they can hope for.

 

[DarrenTR1970]

It's not just The Flash that's underperforming. I can't find the link to the article, but I read that that box office revenue is down 21% (or 31%) from this time last year.

 

[Skipper]

It's not just The Flash that's underperforming. I can't find the link to the article, but I read that that box office revenue is down 21% (or 31%) from this time last year.

Blockbuster fatigue? It exists?

 

[Guy Gardener]

Blockbuster fatigue? It exists?

If theatres start doing really badly, maybe Blockbuster will re-open a second store?

 

[Rich Watson]

The only big budget movies to make a profit so far this year are Mario, GOTG3 and Spider-Verse. Everything else has flopped to some degree.

Ironically Ant-Man 3, which looked like a major failure back in February, now looks far better compared to Transformers, D&D, Fast & Furious 753 and DC's offerings.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

I'd like to see what TPB at WB were studying to conclude that DCEU fans would also want to see Keaton return (and obviously mistaken in their view that would translate into box office success or a boost), since Burton's Bat-films are not exactly fondly remembered versions of the character. One might assume that gamble did not pay off.

 

[M'rk son of Mogh]

...since Burton's Bat-films are not exactly fondly remembered versions of the character.

Says who?
Links please.
Anecdotally, this couldn't be further from the truth with my friends, comic shop and family.
And literally the only person that I know that saw the movie (one of the comic shop regulars on Wednesday) said he wished he just saw it for free on streaming, it wasn't worth it.

 

[Guy Gardener]

I'd like to see what TPB at WB were studying to conclude that DCEU fans would also want to see Keaton return (and obviously mistaken in their view that would translate into box office success or a boost), since Burton's Bat-films are not exactly fondly remembered versions of the character. One might assume that gamble did not pay off.

What are you smoking?

Batman 89 was a perfect movie when it came out.

Children in their 20s today may not have been around then, and may react to Batman 89, like the time I tried to watch Batman 43, but they remember Keaton as a Spider-Man Villain, from the best Spider-Man since he was on the Electric company.

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Is that Morgan Freeman? (It is.) Batman's weapon smith Lucius Fox.

EVERYTHING IS CONNECTED!

 

[DarrenTR1970]

There's a poll over on the Steve Hoffman Forum, 'Favorite Live Action Batman' and Michael Keaton is in second place, behind Adam West. 197 to 114. None of the other actors combined match Keaton or West's totals.

 

[Noname Given]

It's not just The Flash that's underperforming. I can't find the link to the article, but I read that that box office revenue is down 21% (or 31%) from this time last year.

There's underperforming, and then there's bombing big. This 2023 Flash Film is doing the latter.

 

[Rich Watson]

There's a poll over on the Steve Hoffman Forum, 'Favorite Live Action Batman' and Michael Keaton is in second place, behind Adam West. 197 to 114. None of the other actors combined match Keaton or West's totals.

114 people. That's definitive.

Why would anybody under the age of 40, in other words the majority of the movie going audience, care about Keaton?

This is the same sort of thinking that led to the last Terminator movie. "Yeah, the kids will go wild for two old people whose career primes are decades in the past!"

It's also why Indiana Jones is going to sink like a lead balloon next week.

 

[M'rk son of Mogh]

It's also why Indiana Jones is going to sink like a lead balloon next week.

Well, every review so far saying it's between awful to simply boring isn't exactly getting people excited either, to be fair.

 

[Christopher]

There's a poll over on the Steve Hoffman Forum, 'Favorite Live Action Batman' and Michael Keaton is in second place, behind Adam West. 197 to 114. None of the other actors combined match Keaton or West's totals.

Which may go for the internet fandom bubble, but probably says nothing about the general moviegoing audience. Voluntary surveys of the visitors to a given website are statistically meaningless, because their participants are self-selecting and thus constitute a biased sample.

 

[Guy Gardener]

114 people. That's definitive.

Why would anybody under the age of 40, in other words the majority of the movie going audience, care about Keaton?

This is the same sort of thinking that led to the last Terminator movie. "Yeah, the kids will go wild for two old people whose career primes are decades in the past!"

It's also why Indiana Jones is going to sink like a lead balloon next week.

Have you tried to teach your parents how to stream anything?

The kids are streaming, and downloading illegally.

We Over 30s are the only hope that movie theatres have.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

114 people. That's definitive.

Why would anybody under the age of 40, in other words the majority of the movie going audience, care about Keaton?

True; unlike some older movie creations that have been discovered by and celebrated across generations (e.g. Universal's monsters, TOS, etc.), Keaton's Batman is not among that group. Aside from the miscasting of the lead in the Burton film, 21st century movie versions have completely redefined how a live-action Batman should be, delivering near-perfect interpretations of the early years and older Batman, which makes a nostalgia-baited look back to '89 anything other than the mass crowd-pleasing event it was intended to be in The Flash..

This is the same sort of thinking that led to the last Terminator movie. "Yeah, the kids will go wild for two old people whose career primes are decades in the past!"

In the case of the Terminator, its not that the performers were older, its about the quality of the original characters, which were once great. But the moviegoer goodwill earned by the actors was flushed by the utterly inept, pointless script of the 2019 film.

It's also why Indiana Jones is going to sink like a lead balloon next week.

Truly a series that would have been best served if allowed to follow the final scene of The Last Crusade, with the quartet riding off into the sunset.

 

[thribs]

Mission Impossible and Oppenheimer will do well I’m sure.