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News Star Trek Prodigy Cancelled, Season 2 to be shopped around

Every time someone watches a show, residuals have to be paid to the creator. Expunging it entirely from the service means there are zero ongoing costs related to it after it's written off as a loss.

Then those creators should join the striking writers and protect their investments. That is pretty shady.
 
Then those creators should join the striking writers and protect their investments. That is pretty shady.

Paramount+ is following the new industry trend. HBO Max did this recently with a bunch of animated shows (including Mystery Train), and Disney+ did it with a bunch too (including Willow, which just came out like a year prior).

Netflix though doesn't seem to give a crap - they'll keep low-viewership crap on the service forever. And Amazon is full of garbage. I'm sure that either service would buy Prodigy at a low enough price. I just don't get why Paramount would be willing to spread Trek IP across other services after spending so much time consolidating it.
 
Yeah. I know we're not supposed to talk about it on this forum, but just generally, people are going to go back to piracy if they can't get something through a streaming service they actually paid for, not to mention those costs for the streamers are going up. You're getting less content for more money. It's 2000-2003 all over again.
I don't condone it because it is leeching off of other's work without paying them. However, from what my time looking at the lost media wiki has shown me, an unintended side-effect of piracy is its ability to preserve shows and other media on the internet when companies try to pull a 1984 and scrub their existence from society.

I just don't get why Paramount would be willing to spread Trek IP across other services after spending so much time consolidating it.
Because like a lot media companies, they got greedy and thought they could paywall their content and force a lot people to pay to see their shows. The initial benefit of Netflix and Hulu was that you could see a lot of old and new content from different companies in one place, whenever you wanted. When companies started removing their stuff and putting in their own streaming services, they basically undermined the whole point of streaming, and just reinvented cable.
 
I don't condone it because it is leeching off of other's work without paying them. However, from what my time looking at the lost media wiki has shown me, an unintended side-effect of piracy is its ability to preserve shows and other media on the internet when companies try to pull a 1984 and scrub their existence from society.

I was watching a Youtube video a few weeks ago where they were talking about the movie "The French Connection" being reedited and censored for streaming. The guy I was watching was pissed about that, mainly because art shouldn't be censored or edited because of "modern sensibilities" (Even though I think he said he wasn't sure if the creator gave his blessing to do that). It kind of is the same argument with Lucas and the original Star Wars trilogy and how what we saw back then is now being changed for "the times we live in". That's why physical media might become more important than ever. Things get memory holed (There are also many shows from when I was growing up in the 90s that has never seen the light of day now, like Seven Days or The Sentinal, to name a few) or 1984'ed and it's like a bit of culture goes missing as well.
 
I don't condone it because it is leeching off of other's work without paying them. However, from what my time looking at the lost media wiki has shown me, an unintended side-effect of piracy is its ability to preserve shows and other media on the internet when companies try to pull a 1984 and scrub their existence from society.
Pirates are the only reason any of the younger people even know about the Star Wars Holiday Special. :lol:
 
Because like a lot media companies, they got greedy and thought they could paywall their content and force a lot people to pay to see their shows. The initial benefit of Netflix and Hulu was that you could see a lot of old and new content from different companies in one place, whenever you wanted. When companies started removing their stuff and putting in their own streaming services, they basically undermined the whole point of streaming, and just reinvented cable.

I mean, I think everyone understood there could only be maybe three winners tops to "the streaming wars." It's just that they all convinced themselves they were going to be the winners if they did the exact same thing as all of the other ones.

Never mind that Sony apparently has done just fine as a media company solely focusing on content creation and selling off to Netflix or other third parties.
 
I can understand 40 episodes and done... but somehow pulling it is worth more than airing it directly? After PICARD season 3, PRODIGY was my favorite NuTrek. And it managed to stick to canon too. Well now let's look forward to SNW running long enough to ~really~ overwrite TOS and Legacy not happening...
 
I was watching a Youtube video a few weeks ago where they were talking about the movie "The French Connection" being reedited and censored for streaming. The guy I was watching was pissed about that, mainly because art shouldn't be censored or edited because of "modern sensibilities" (Even though I think he said he wasn't sure if the creator gave his blessing to do that). It kind of is the same argument with Lucas and the original Star Wars trilogy and how what we saw back then is now being changed for "the times we live in". That's why physical media might become more important than ever. Things get memory holed (There are also many shows from when I was growing up in the 90s that has never seen the light of day now, like Seven Days or The Sentinal, to name a few) or 1984'ed and it's like a bit of culture goes missing as well.
I'm not entirely opposed to creators willingly editing their shows to conform to modern sensibilities, but I do have a problem with shows and movies disappearing entirely. A lot of early cinema and television is gone, not necessarily because those who owned them intentionally destroyed media, but because they were stored on perishable formats or existed at a time when video recording wasn't a thing. In an age where we do have ways of recording and storing media, I think it's wrong for companies to let media become lost. A while ago I was upset to hear that Epic (Mega)Games had removed most of the Unreal and Unreal Tournament games from online market places, except Unreal Tournament 3 (the worst one) bizarrely. Those games put Epic on the path to be big Battle Royale daddy it is today, but now they act like Fortnite is their only claim to fame.
 
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There was a time that I'd hope the SyFy Channel would pick up a cancelled Trek show and air new episodes but that hope evaporated in 2005. If SyFy at the peak of basic cable sci-fi programming wouldn't touch a cancelled Trek series then it won't now.
I mean Syfy at the time had some decent shows on during that era (Stargate SG-1, Stargate Atlantis, Battlestar Galactica, Eureka, Sanctuary) it would’ve been cool to see Star Trek join them.
 
I can understand 40 episodes and done... but somehow pulling it is worth more than airing it directly? After PICARD season 3, PRODIGY was my favorite NuTrek. And it managed to stick to canon too. Well now let's look forward to SNW running long enough to ~really~ overwrite TOS and Legacy not happening...
Well, TOS was already overwritten.
 
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Enterprise could have banged out a killer Season 5 with Shran in the lead cast and the start of the Earth-Romulan War as the story focus. Sure, it would have moved to cable but at least then we wouldn't have "TATV..." as the swan song of both the series and an entire era of Star Trek.
 
All discussion of piracy stops NOW! I don't care if you condone it or not. Warnings will be handed out if it continues.
 
Well.. Fuck..

Well with WB seemingly shopping some of there stuff around to netflix, it seems that this so called "Golden Age" of indivuidual streamers is coming to a merciful end. It honestly was a BAD idea to begin with.. Unless your say Disney with a boat load of IP that is popular, and some money behind it, it is NOT cost effective to be your own streamer.
I theorize that Paramount + will be gone within the year, and everything be shopped around to say Netflix or Amazon. Same with WB, though that one has some legs.
 
Enterprise could have banged out a killer Season 5 with Shran in the lead cast and the start of the Earth-Romulan War as the story focus. Sure, it would have moved to cable but at least then we wouldn't have "TATV..." as the swan song of both the series and an entire era of Star Trek.
Yeah it was on SyFy for a while, fueling hope it might return with new episodes one day.
 
Well.. Fuck..

Well with WB seemingly shopping some of there stuff around to netflix, it seems that this so called "Golden Age" of indivuidual streamers is coming to a merciful end. It honestly was a BAD idea to begin with.. Unless your say Disney with a boat load of IP that is popular, and some money behind it, it is NOT cost effective to be your own streamer.
I theorize that Paramount + will be gone within the year, and everything be shopped around to say Netflix or Amazon. Same with WB, though that one has some legs.

I think it's more likely that Paramount is just bought wholesale by someone who has deep pockets like Apple or Amazon, than it is they just turn into another Sony.
 
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