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Why the hell are they calling it Kraven the Hunter? It obviously has nothing to do with the comic book character.
It looks like it could be fun in a dumb, mindless action movie kind of way, but that's about as far as I'd go based off of that trailer.
 
Thinking about it, the part of the trailer where an injured Kraven gets weird powers from the lion/its blood kind of felt like something out of the Catwoman film to me, and thats not a complement.
 
JD said:
Why the hell are they calling it Kraven the Hunter? It obviously has nothing to do with the comic book character.
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That in itself isn't so bad. The Bill Bixby Incredible Hulk had almost nothing in common with the comics, and it's a classic. The movie versions of Who Framed Roger Rabbit? and How to Train Your Dragon bear almost no resemblance to the books they're based on, but they're both terrific movies (and the former is much better than the book that inspired it). The purpose of an adaptation is not merely to copy what the original already did, but to use the original as a starting point for a new interpretation of the concept. Sometimes that means taking only the broad strokes of the concept and doing something profoundly different with them.

It should never matter how faithful an adaptation is. It doesn't matter how much they change, as long as their own version of it is good in its own right. The only question that should matter is whether their version of Kraven is good on its own terms. Although given Sony's track record with these Spidey-adjacent movies, I'm not optimistic about that.
 
Christopher said:
That in itself isn't so bad. The Bill Bixby Incredible Hulk had almost nothing in common with the comics, and it's a classic. The movie versions of Who Framed Roger Rabbit? and How to Train Your Dragon bear almost no resemblance to the books they're based on, but they're both terrific movies (and the former is much better than the book that inspired it). The purpose of an adaptation is not merely to copy what the original already did, but to use the original as a starting point for a new interpretation of the concept. Sometimes that means taking only the broad strokes of the concept and doing something profoundly different with them.

It should never matter how faithful an adaptation is. It doesn't matter how much they change, as long as their own version of it is good in its own right. The only question that should matter is whether their version of Kraven is good on its own terms. Although given Sony's track record with these Spidey-adjacent movies, I'm not optimistic about that.
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I mostly agree with this except to say that I think should matter if the adaptation is faithful to the spirit of the source material. Otherwise, just create your own characters and names.
 
Christopher said:
That in itself isn't so bad. The Bill Bixby Incredible Hulk had almost nothing in common with the comics, and it's a classic. The movie versions of Who Framed Roger Rabbit? and How to Train Your Dragon bear almost no resemblance to the books they're based on, but they're both terrific movies (and the former is much better than the book that inspired it). The purpose of an adaptation is not merely to copy what the original already did, but to use the original as a starting point for a new interpretation of the concept. Sometimes that means taking only the broad strokes of the concept and doing something profoundly different with them.

It should never matter how faithful an adaptation is. It doesn't matter how much they change, as long as their own version of it is good in its own right. The only question that should matter is whether their version of Kraven is good on its own terms. Although given Sony's track record with these Spidey-adjacent movies, I'm not optimistic about that.
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I'm not disagreeing with, if you read the second half of my post I did admit it could it still be a fun mindless action movie.
And if I was a fan of the source material for Who Censored Roger Rabbit (the original book's title) or the How to Train Your Dragon books, I'd still probably say the same thing.
I can be disappointed that the adaptation didn't stick closer to source material, but still enjoy it as it's own thing.
 
Tosk said:
Kraven looks like exactly the film I was expecting. At this point I'm no longer remotely disappointed, I don't have the energy for it. (I reserve the right to mock it mercilessly though. Once I regain my energy. ;))
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I think that's it exactly. "From the studio that brought you Venom and Morbius", this is pretty much a bullseye for expectations.
 
I'm surprised they'd even want to admit they made Morbius. The first Venom at least has it's fans, including me, so I can see mention it, but I didn't think anybody like Morbius. I haven't seen it yet, so I have no opinion, other than that the trailers were made it look like it could be OK.
 
M'rk son of Mogh said:
I think that's it exactly. "From the studio that brought you Venom and Morbius", this is pretty much a bullseye for expectations.
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Honestly, even with all that in mind I was still shocked to see him get animal powers through Lion blood. I shouldn't have been, but it just never occurred to me that they'd do that. In hindsight though it feels like exactly the kind of thing that "the studio that brought you Venom and Morbius" would do :lol:
 
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