That thread is temporarily closed...
So to answer that question, no.
Which is ironic, as we should be transitioning to a DC Omni Universe thread. (Yes, i know it is Omniverse.... but abbreviation DC OU sounds so appropriate said aloud)
DC Movies - To Infinity and Beyond
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So to answer that question, no.
Which is ironic, as we should be transitioning to a DC Omni Universe thread. (Yes, i know it is Omniverse.... but abbreviation DC OU sounds so appropriate said aloud)
They don't discuss marvel there. They discuss the justice system.
Given Ezra's many crimes we should probably start talking about it here too...
The only crime they were convicted of was breaking into a home and stealing liquor.
(Thanks @Kai "the spy" )
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We ought to have this be our last post in this thread....
Well, whichever way you cut it, I'm a little bit gutted that we won't ever see the scene where Flash's head pops out of thin air to Bruce Wayne from Barry's perspective.
Isn't this thread supposed to be until Infinity ... and beyond?
So, thread lock this too? Cause that's what happened.
Guess all the DC discussion is over. Good night, folks. *Groucho Marx*
Only? - There's many a person sitting IN PRISON for doing that - not making millions of dollars because a studio wants everything 'swept under the rug' for profit. And grooming a 14 year old girl doesn't sit well with me either.
If he was black or poor he'd be in prison or dead.
Well that's rich people and the famous in general. I'm not gonna elevate one famous person's crime above the hollywood elite.
As for the grooming i don't know enough to comment but there is a ton of misinformation out there about all this. Fact checking here. Haven't read all https://twitter.com/GhostofMeg/status/1620655659627974656
As for the grooming i don't know enough to comment but there is a ton of misinformation out there about all this. Fact checking here. Haven't read all https://twitter.com/GhostofMeg/status/1620655659627974656
Fact checking or twisting the facts to a predetermined outcome?
Or maybe... it just wasn't a good movie. It blatantly stole entire scenes from S:TM. And I, personally, hated the idea of a Clark who wiped Lois' memory and left her pregnant. After seeing it with a friend who had never seen S:TM (and who is younger than I), I showed her S:TM and she loved that.
I think this finally explains for me why you love the Snyderverse version of Supes so much. OK. Thank you.
Superman Returns' problem was that Bryan Singer simply doesn't care about the source material. He is a big Richard Donner fan though (I think he was his mentor?) and wanted to do a love letter to Donners' work, even though he had no appreciation for the character of Superman himself.
Yes, all of this. Superman Returns didn't fail because people didn't want a Christopher Reeves style Superman, it failed because it was a mediocre film made by someone who didn't seem to care much about the character. Also, if you actually watch it none of the characters even really act like the 78 versions except in very superficial ways, and the movie doesn't share a tone with Superman I-IV, either. Its much more somber and its color palate is very dull and grey, its actually closer to MoS then Superman 78 in some ways.
To this day I think the idea of making a "sequel" to the Donner films could have worked, and I think that Brandon Routh would have done a wonderful job as that kind of Superman with material that was actually any good, but a bad script/direction mixed with an odd tone just really kill the film, and none of that involves what kind of Superman the audience would want/accept at the time.
I never understood the "cares about the source/character" argument. So these people, slap shit on the screen and say, "eh, close enough?"
Damn, I thought I was cynical.
Damn, I thought I was cynical.
The problem with Superman Returns was it wanted the general audience to remember a movie and it's sequel from 1978. No one besides diehard fans would remember all that. They'd probably remember the helicopter rescue but that's it.
Then the movie was tepid with Superman. He didn't even throw a punch at anyone. People were expecting some brawling.
"Man of Steel" started over. It did the origin again which hadn't been show on the big screen in 35 years. IMO I think it got too preachy and Snyder went overboard with the destruction.
After that movie premiered fans endlessly debated how many people died during all that destruction and how much it cost to rebuild
In "BVS" Snyder seemed to understand some of the criticism and we got bits of dialogue from news reporters like Anderson Cooper
"Thankfully the work day is over in the downtown core, it's nearly empty"
It felt like the movie was TOO aware of the criticisms of "Man of Steel" and it was distracting
It's strange to read some people say that Superman Returns didn't work for the exact reasons they say they liked MoS.
Superman in Returns was alienated, lonely, burdened, regretful, overwhelmed, unsure of himself, basically the human qualites that people claim make Cavill so perfect, vastly changed by discovering how alone he really is and thus quite different from Reeve... yet they ignore that simply because it had John Williams score or something?
Superman in Returns was alienated, lonely, burdened, regretful, overwhelmed, unsure of himself, basically the human qualites that people claim make Cavill so perfect, vastly changed by discovering how alone he really is and thus quite different from Reeve... yet they ignore that simply because it had John Williams score or something?