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Spoilers Picard News & Reviews from Outside Sources

I’m not typically one to post YT videos but I found this one to be pretty on point.

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I generally agree with Steve on most things so that’s not surprising. Some I think is a little too harsh, some a little too soft, but I think generally he hits the nail on the head here.

Yeah, I disagree with him on the Borg - even if their last encounter was with Janeway, they were TNG's Big Bad first. And on how likeable Jack is. But I do agree with him on most of the major shortfalls of S3.
 
I’m not typically one to post YT videos but I found this one to be pretty on point.

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I generally agree with Steve on most things so that’s not surprising. Some I think is a little too harsh, some a little too soft, but I think generally he hits the nail on the head here.

I skimmed through it, and what I find great is even at a baseline level, he can admit S3 is an improvement over the disasters of Picard S1 and S2.

That's good to hear. Both him and Jesse Gender (who have vocal reservations about Pic S3) seem to agree at the very least it's still the better season. That seems to be the consensus from those few reviewers that didn't like the season.

Interesting that he acknowledges the "Woke Mind Virus" plot (his words) as a negative ........ It was totally intentionally from the S3 producer and writers, and I loved it.
 
US wise, studies have shown that the "woke" (progressive activist) segment of the population is around 6-8%.

But much like "liberal", it's hard to pin down what the particular meaning of the word is in any given case.
 
US wise, studies have shown that the "woke" (progressive activist) segment of the population is around 6-8%.

But much like "liberal", it's hard to pin down what the particular meaning of the word is in any given case.
All from an American standpoint, but: I think the split between liberal/progressive and moderate/establishment would be the split between the AOC/Sanders wing of the Democratic Party and the Biden/Clinton wing. And for how many there are now(-ish), all we have to do is look at the Primaries in 2016 and 2020.
 
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I've often noticed that when people make the claim that only a tiny fraction of the population is "woke" (a word that basically means different things for everyone), the main underlying argument appears to be that the remaining people are all the opposite. That "everyone" is fed up with the virtue signaling, the forced diversity, shoving down LGBTQ people on "normal people's" throats, or banning "harmless words." Truly anecdotal of course, but I've found that people who identify as "anti-woke" tend to assume that the vast majority of people think about culture war issues the same way they do and are just too polite to say it out loud, or that even the most vocal "woke" progressive activists don't actually believe in what they're saying and are just grandstanding for clout.
 
I've often noticed that when people make the claim that only a tiny fraction of the population is "woke" (a word that basically means different things for everyone), the main underlying argument appears to be that the remaining people are all the opposite. That "everyone" is fed up with the virtue signaling, the forced diversity, shoving down LGBTQ people on "normal people's" throats, or banning "harmless words." Truly anecdotal of course, but I've found that people who identify as "anti-woke" tend to assume that the vast majority of people think about culture war issues the same way they do and are just too polite to say it out loud, or that even the most vocal "woke" progressive activists don't actually believe in what they're saying and are just grandstanding for clout.

Yes, despite all the evidence to the contrary - that most people are increasingly accepting of the ongoing opening up of our culture, even if not comfortable with one aspect or another of it (for instance, anxiety over what is and is not "permissible" expression). A loud minority keep the so-called "culture wars" simmering.
 
I skimmed through it, and what I find great is even at a baseline level, he can admit S3 is an improvement over the disasters of Picard S1 and S2.

I think everyone agrees S3 is an improvement over S2. I think most audience members who think about it are also willing to grade S2 on a curve because its plot structure was clearly impaired by the need to undertake COVID safety precautions at a time before vaccines had become widely available. A certain segment of fandom refuses to acknowledge is that Matalas is also significantly responsible for S2 even as they praise S3, of course.

S3 is not an improvement over S1. The biggest problem with S1 is that it doesn't adequately integrate the Artifact into the season finale's climax, but its thematic ambition and character depth outweigh that problem many times over. S3 is a fun ride and has fewer problems with plot structure, but its thematic ambitions are so much lower and its character depth, while quite good, frankly do not match that of S1. There is no scene that matches the emotional intensity of Picard's dreams about Data, for instance. (Unsurprisingly, since Chabon is one of the greatest American writers of his generation.)

That's good to hear. Both him and Jesse Gender (who have vocal reservations about Pic S3) seem to agree at the very least it's still the better season. That seems to be the consensus from those few reviewers that didn't like the season.

Nobody dislikes S3. We just don't want it used to diss S1 or other good ST. There's room for many versions of Star Trek.

Interesting that he acknowledges the "Woke Mind Virus" plot (his words) as a negative ........ It was totally intentionally from the S3 producer and writers, and I loved it.

If that was the case, how come Matalas yelled at Burnett over Twitter for spouting right-wing anti-"woke" jokes?

Sean Tretta with Robert Meyer Burnett

Please tell us exactly what Tretta said.
 
Please tell us exactly what Tretta said.

A rough transcript from the YouTube captions:
it was it was really a generational
thing like that right you know like
there's you know the the words we threw
around the most in this uh in the season
were you know generation and Legacy you
know
um in the first episode picard says
I'm not a man who needs a legacy and
then you know the whole like that's just
there because like no no you're gonna
get like we're going deep into that so
um it wasn't it wasn't a political
commentary if anything we wanted to
avoid that we didn't we didn't want to
say like oh the younger generation is
weak or susceptible or anything like
that is absolutely the last thing we
wanted to say it was more
um it was more about you know it's it's
a season about
families it's a season about generations
and children and and and parents and in
those relationships and um and that we
like that everyone has
something to contribute and you know you
have these older
um you know older officers that are uh
coming on to the ship in you know in the
first episode
and you know everyone's like oh those
those little guys you know and
um because that's what happens right
like everyone be eventually no matter
how cool you are no matter how important
you are eventually you become that old
guy you know and so
um you know and I think it was
and you know that's just how time works
and I it was we wanted to
you know show that but then throughout
the season they all become a team like
you know Sydney you know laforge has
that you know great moment where you
know uh where geordi you know says you
know they're not you're they're you're
not your family and she's like yes they
are like everyone on that ship on the
Titan pulls it together and becomes a
vital part so we weren't trying to make
a negative
um you know if anything it was about
like let's you know like they came after
Picard's child and now they're coming
after your children and you know we need
to we need to to save everyone
Source, time index 43:50
 
A rough transcript from the YouTube captions:

Source, time index 43:50

Thank you.

Alright, folks, you heard it straight from the horse's mouth -- it wasn't intentional allegory. Season Three of Star Trek: Picard is not an intentional allegory about Boomers needing to save society from Millennials and Zoomers who have been brainwashed by a evil foreigners using scary technology.

I mean, subtextually it is, but it's pretty clear that was unintentional.

But even then, it's still not about a "woke mind virus," since nothing about the Borg is woke and since nothing about regular Starfleet is anti-woke.
 
I just watched that video and some of the criticisms are valid, but a lot of them demonstrate some questionable media literacy and make the critical error of mistaking his personal opinions for axiomatic principles, and this detracts from the valid criticisms.
 
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