Spoilers Was Picard Season 3 an Allegory for anything?

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  1. fireproof78

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    That is Lord Terry's goal. Us mere mortals dare not question it.
     
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    :borg:Terry is Good. Terry is our Pal:borg:
     
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    Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of Terry! How unsearchable His judgments and his storylines beyond tracing out! Who has known the mind of the Executive Producer or who has been his Head Writer? Who has ever given to Terry that Terry should repay them? For from Him and through Him and for Him are all Trek. To Him be glory forever! LLAP.
     
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    Is he? How special. :lol:
     
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    About as much as anyone. What, you think you're all recycling and driving EVs? :guffaw:
     
  6. cal888

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    For all the joking that's going on about the alleged deification or ennoblement of Terry Matalas, there is a gap in the market for a Michael Chabon to finish season 1 plotlines petition, a Gretchen Berg / Aaron Harberts glorious restoration petition, a petition for Akiva Goldsman to be recognized for his singular contributions to the franchise, or one to anoint Michelle Paradise the next Michael Piller...
     
  7. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    So I should just accept popularity without thinking?

    Leave your brains at the door everyone. The popular thing to do!
     
  8. TerryTrek

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    Let the few of them have their little support group... :lol: if it helps them sleep better at night.

    Some have proven that they can't handle even mild criticism of the other Nu Trek shows and seasons....and it's funny.

    On the flip side, I don't know if you heard this. Popcast mentioned it in their latest video. They've heard Kurtzman originally wanted to do Star Trek: Janeway before the success of S3, with Mulgrew in tow. John Logan as EP. Sounds like it thankfully fell through.
     
  9. cal888

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    I try to constructively engage with some of the more opinionated posters here for better or worse. I'm just too used to interacting with people in real life to get into online pseudonymous combat. At least this BBS is far more open than prominent corners of Reddit.

    Yeah I heard about that during their latest live stream. RMB joked about that being done with Michelle Paradise a month or two back, so John Logan is at least a much better candidate. And a John Logan / Terry Matalas mashup wouldn't be the end of the world. The main question for that would if Kate Mulgrew and Jeri Ryan have been able to bury the hatchet and reconcile. The later shouldn't have to tolerate an abusive work environment again.
     
  10. Sci

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    I'm pretty sure Terry Matalas isn't anywhere near the kind of asshole you're making him sound like here.

    Because PIC S1's plotlines are finished. Chabon finished them in "Et in Arcadia Ego, Parts I & II."

    He's co-running SNW and it's ridiculously popular. He's doing fine.

    I have no idea if she even wants to stay on after DIS ends, but I would love for Michelle Paradise to be showrunner on SFA. She can be in charge of the 32nd Century shows. :)
     
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  11. Serveaux

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    Why so defensive?
     
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    I think you're quoting the wrong person.
     
  13. cal888

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    To be fair, I'd be saying the exact same thing about SNW...
     
  14. fireproof78

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    And it's cutting it close for my comfort. Pike is the only saving grace, the hook if you will, that really draws me back. But, that is because Pike has always been my favorite captain until Robau.
     
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    I think the season was about legacy and moving forward. Shaw was finally able to let go of his preconceptions and acknowledge Seven to the point where he passed the torch to her to be captain. The old TNG crew passed the torch to the newer generation after one final ride, and Picard having to accept where he was in life actually being happy with his crew. While I had qualms with the season, looking back and looking at it from a legacy and "Next Generation" perspective, it was well done.
     
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    I don't think PIC Season 3 is anti-youth. Why? Because it set up Legacy. Except for Seven and Raffi, the Enterprise-G has a young crew. If PIC Season 3 were truly anti-youth it wouldn't have done that.
     
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    The Borg were hopelessly belligerent and needed to be neutralized. No one created that problem but the Queen. The analogy doesn't work with the Borg, as even if Janeway hadn't introduced the pathogen, they'd still have attacked Earth.
     
  18. Lord Garth

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    One thing Picard Season 3 has in common with Star Trek VI is that both start off looking like they're going to be harder-edged, then -- after about the middle -- they start to back off from that more and more until they get to the feel-good ending.
     
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    I think it's arguable how "feel-good" the ending actually is, since it's only positive from the perspective of the audience's view of the TNG characters, for them and their families.

    In universe, once you get past everyone connected to the TNG cast, the ending is actually pretty grim, just not Earth destroyed grim. A significant amount of Starfleet's ships have been destroyed and their crews murdered. And the survivors are probably traumatized to various extents, especially the younger members of Starfleet whose hand was forced to kill their superiors.

    If you start thinking about it, while Raffi is getting the call from her son reconciling their relationship after what's happened, there are God knows how many other families getting calls that their loved ones are dead, or a young Starfleet Lt. calling their parents crying that they were a Borgified drone that was mind-raped.
     
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    I thought Star Trek fans were against showing the emotional side of things? If this were a Disco episode and it did dwell on the people who lost loved ones or the emotional trauma of the young people forced to commit murder against their will, everyone would be all "stop the crying, this isn't what Star Trek is supposed to be!"
     
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