The AI Future of Trek

[ernie90125]

This question works on the basis that a) AI will be able to do anything but b) answers are more specific than make another TV show/film from scratch.

What could you see the AI Future of Trek including ?

To start us off :

1. Starfleet Academy (computer game) Cutscenes Movie - take the below cleverly edited video and overhaul its filming style, cast age and effects to exactly match The Undiscovered Country as a prequel movie.

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2. Take all the audio dramas (Simon & Schuster) starring one or two original cast members, mimicking their castmates’ voices, and convert them to (seemingly) star all the original cast.

 

[fireproof78]

I would not watch an AI driven Trek.

 

[ernie90125]

I would not watch an AI driven Trek.

Driven is one thing, but the above two suggestions were modified by AI.
There’d still be a human created performance underneath.

You may not be able to avoid it, like using computers to create effects was once seen as cheating…now it can’t be avoided…

 

[fireproof78]

Driven is one thing, but the above two suggestions were modified by AI.
There’d still be a human created performance underneath.

You may not be able to avoid it, like using computers to create effects was once seen as cheating…now it can’t be avoided…

It's called turning it off. Yes, I can avoid it. I'm not interested in an AI show.

 

[Timofnine]

Star Trek writers need to be observed as they write things so that the studio knows that they are not cheating.

 

[ernie90125]

Star Trek writers need to be observed as they write things so that the studio knows that they are not cheating.

I’m thinking more peripheral projects than duplicating what new things real humans could do themselves…

 

[Timofnine]

I’m thinking more peripheral projects than duplicating what new things real humans could do themselves…

But how do you prove that a *real* human did creatively produce something themselves? It’s all well and good allowing AI for peripheral projects, but what is to stop this new tech from being used to replace or augment human creativity in regard to
original works? I do not mean by the studios, but by the content ‘creators’ themselves as an easy way of making money? Someone could quite easily abuse AI without anyone even knowing, taking this generated or augmented content and claiming it as their own, being given credit and payment for what is produced by an algorithm. Regulation, monitoring and moderation is required for those within recognised unions to prove that human talent and imagination is being engaged, not an AI or any other form of plagiarism. The alternative is for Hollywood to become submissive to AI and let everyone use it and the creative industries will collapse as a result. I do not care about other shows or films btw, but I do care about Star Trek.

 

[ernie90125]

Your concern is avoiding forgery which I don't disagree with...

My question was more about what positive possibilities does it open up ?

What'd people think of the two ideas in my first posting. If AI made those two specific ideas happen, would they have your support ?

 

[Paul Weaver]

It's called turning it off. Yes, I can avoid it. I'm not interested in an AI show.

Would you be able to detect it?

Can you detect shows where the script is by typewriter rather than pen? How about those that had a spell checker? How about writers that use grammarly?

The alternative is for Hollywood to become submissive to AI and let everyone use it and the creative industries will collapse as a result

If human writers are better then surely that will win out?

 

[fireproof78]

Would you be able to detect it?

Can you detect shows where the script is by typewriter rather than pen? How about those that had a spell checker? How about writers that use grammarly?

Maybe. Maybe not, which goes to the questionable ethics of AI tech that makes me hesitant in the first place.

If human writers are better then surely that will win out?

Nope. Cheaper will.

 

[Paul Weaver]

Nope. Cheaper will.

I'm certain that a studio could just crowdsource a script, indeed run a competition where you submit your scripts and the one they make gets a $50 credit with Paramount Plus

Fortunately studios aren't stupid and know they have to pay for good work.

 

[fireproof78]

I'm certain that a studio could just crowdsource a script, indeed run a competition where you submit your scripts and the one they make gets a $50 credit with Paramount Plus

Fortunately studios aren't stupid and know they have to pay for good work.

Looks at the current strike.


Yeah, I'm less certain about that.

 

[Paul Weaver]

Looks at the current strike.

Yeah, I'm less certain about that.

Writers have been on strike many times throughout history, (including what led to season 2 of TNG). This is no different.

 

[fireproof78]

Writers have been on strike many times throughout history, (including what led to season 2 of TNG). This is no different.

My point is that studios are looking for cheapest possible. So I'm not convinced they will always pay for good work. Some might; others won't. AI adds another factor in the mix to be accounted for.

The current conditions that led to the strike do not have me confident. Mileage will vary.

 

[bdub76]

From a work perspective, I see AI allowing me to be far more efficient in the future. It's basically Trek's computer.

From a writing point of view, I hope to see less editorial errors. For example, one of the Trek stories I read last night had a typo of card sharp instead of card shark. I would like AI to help editors and writers catch those errors. So I'm hoping AIs make writer's lives better, not worse. I don't see AI replacing writers.

 

[fireproof78]

From a work perspective, I see AI allowing me to be far more efficient in the future. It's basically Trek's computer.

From a writing point of view, I hope to see less editorial errors. For example, one of the Trek stories I read last night had a typo of card sharp instead of card shark. I would like AI to help editors and writers catch those errors. So I'm hoping AIs make writer's lives better, not worse. I don't see AI replacing writers.

Rules need to be established first and foremost. Yes, there is potential benefit and also potential abuse.

 

[bdub76]

Rules need to be established first and foremost. Yes, there is potential benefit and also potential abuse.

It's way too early.

Have you tried ChatGPT yet?

 

[fireproof78]

It's way too early.

Have you tried ChatGPT yet?

Nope. Tried some other basic AI functions like art generation. But, overall, its not interesting.

 

[bdub76]

Nope. Tried some other basic AI functions like art generation. But, overall, its not interesting.

I like Topez AI for upscaling shows to better resolutions when used with Avisynth. I use gradient boosted trees (lightgbm and xgboost) at work to build more efficient models. I'm experimenting with ChatGPT to build me some boilerplate code to jumpstart some of my work. The equivalent in Bing does a better job of Googling. This is a time saver.

AI is super exciting. I can do far more in less time, and the results continue to improve each year. I'll get ahead of my peers by utilizing, rather than fearing this technology.

 

[Awesome Possum]

I’d rather watch the worst, most poorly produced Trek fan film than some shit made by an AI.