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Star Wars: Visions - Anime Anthology Series

Not so overtly, I don't think, but the new canon did establish that kyber crystals are colorless until they choose their Jedi, so it is still affected by the person building the lightsaber in some way. And they can change after the fact, but it only seems to be from colored to red if being used by a dark-sider, and then from red to white if repaired by a Jedi.
 
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I believe these specific lightsabers are of a different technology than the traditional lightsabers of the Jedi. For one they were all made by one sabersmith. They are all a bit ornate. This could be a lightsaber of the distant past or the far future (though that means that somehow a version of the Sith return and outlaw lightsabers or something).

It was one of the more interesting takes on Star Wars and I would like to explore it a bit more.
 
Yeah, that was a bit of an odd way to approach that. I remember in an old EU game or book they had the Jedi broken down into different categories, with each color representing a different one. Have they done anything like that in the new canon?
The way it's supposed to work is that natural living kyber crystals are usually clear (like the one on Jyn's necklace.) It only takes on a colour when it is awoken; for Jedi that process is about establishing a sympathetic bond with the living crystal, for the Sith it's very much an act of domination. That process is euphemistically referred to as "bleeding the crystal" as it always produces a red crystal (you can even see one amongst Luke's collection of artefacts on Ahch-To; a relic of the ancient Jedi Crusades.)

As to a specific meaning for the non-red colours; with the exception that white crystals appear to be what results when a red is purified, so far there doesn't seem to be any. Or at least none that can be so narrowly defined and that's probably for the best.
It seems to just be an expression of the bond between a specific Jedi and a specific crystal, at a specific time. Note that Ezra's kyber changed from blue to green when he re-bonded it to make his second sabre, and Anakin managed to change Ahsoka's green crystals blue when he refurbished them.

It's also worth keeping in mind that the supposed "purpose" of the colours in Legends mostly comes from the games, which means it has more to do with serving the game's mechanic (character class systems, specifically) than any actual lore, so I wouldn't put much stock in any of it. Same with the "lightsaber forms" (because that's not how actual sword fighting works) and the idea of "force powers" (because that's not how the force works.)

On top of that, it's best to remember that the real-world reason for all the colours is rather more arbitrary. In ANH's pre-production the idea was that ALL the blades would just be red (because: laser swords!) Then when they decided to try capturing the effect in-camera with the retroreflective tape that dictated that they'd all be white . . . then when that didn't work very well, it went back to red and a rotoscoping process. Then while editing the Vader/Kenobi duel it became clear they needed to be different colours to more easily differentiate them in some of the tighter shots, so they made Obi-Wan's & Luke's blue.
Roll onto RotJ and again, the plan was the make Luke's blade blue . . . but the thing about the Sarlacc fight is that the sky that's in the background of almost every shot, is that's it's very very blue, which for the photochemical processes of the time meant that the blue blade wasn't registering very well, so they switched it to green.
Purple famously came about because Sam Jackson asked for it. Lucas initially said no, but later relented. The darksaber was originally just going to be a vibroblade, but Lucas didn't like the idea that any kind of normal sword could resist a lightsaber, so they came up with the idea of it being some ancient Jedi relic that the Mandalorians stole (whether the crystal is black or white is a matter of debate; personally I say it's white but have a rather unique emitter to give it that flattened shape.) The yellow blades first cropped up with the Temple Guards, with the idea being that those weapons were antiques that were issued to the guard from the armoury, not their personal weapons.
 
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Same with the "lightsaber forms" (because that's not how actual sword fighting works) and the idea of "force powers" (because that's not how the force works.)
Uh... what? Force powers are not how the Force works?
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I believe these specific lightsabers are of a different technology than the traditional lightsabers of the Jedi. For one they were all made by one sabersmith. They are all a bit ornate. This could be a lightsaber of the distant past or the far future (though that means that somehow a version of the Sith return and outlaw lightsabers or something).

It was one of the more interesting takes on Star Wars and I would like to explore it a bit more.
I just assumed it was in it's own totally unique take on the Star Wars galaxy.

On top of that, it's best to remember that the real-world reason for all the colours is rather more arbitrary. In ANH's pre-production the idea was that ALL the blades would just be red (because: laser swords!) Then when they decided to try capturing the effect in-camera with the retroreflective tape that dictated that they'd all be white . . . then when that didn't work very, it went back to red and a rotoscoping process. Then while editing the Vader/Kenobi duel it became clear they needed to be different colours to more easily differentiate them in some of the tighter shots, so they made Obi-Wan's & Luke's blue.
Roll onto RotJ and again, the plan was the make Luke's blade blue . . . but the thing about the Sarlacc fight is that the sky that's in the background of almost every shot, is that's it's very very blue, which for the photochemical processes of the time meant that the blue blade wasn't registering very well, so they switched it to green.
Purple famously came about because Sam Jackson asked for it. Lucas initially said no, but later relented. The darksaber was originally just going to be a vibroblade, but Lucas didn't like the idea any any kind of normal sword could resist a lightsaber, so they came up with the idea of it being some ancient Jedi relic that the Mandalorians stole (whether the crystal is black or white is a matter of debate; personally I say it's white but have a rather unique emitter to give it that flattened shape.) The yellow blades first cropped up with the Temple Guards, with the idea being that those weapons were antiques that were issued to the guard from the armoury, not their personal weapons.
I had never heard any of that before, I had no idea there were so many technical reasons for the colors, I had just assumed it was purely creative choice on the creators parts.
 
The darksaber was originally just going to be a vibroblade, but Lucas didn't like the idea any any kind of normal sword could resist a lightsaber,
Yet he put weapons that could resist a lightsaber in ROTS... curious.
 
I thought it was pretty clear that "The Ninth Jedi" took place in the distant future, long after the Jedi Order had been mostly extinct.
 
The 'Visions' shorts are all intended to be non-canon, without having to worry about where they do or don't fit in the timeline.

That said, the various Japanese creators still seemed to want them to feel like they fit, to some degree or another.
Indeed, 'The Duel' is the only one that feels like it can't fit into canon without a lot of glossing over of certain details. I mean if one ignores the presence of certain movie era designs, then it could easily take place during the Fall of the Old Republic.
Similarly, Ninth Jedi could take place either in the distant future, or the distant past. The presence of the Sith specifically makes me more inclined towards the latter, as it's already known in both canon and the old EU that the Jedi Order has been whittled down to just a handful of people more than once in it's history. It's not inconceivable that for a while there the knowledge of lightsaber crafting was all but lost as well.

Personally I like to think of them all as diegetic stories. That is tales that exist within the universe in some form or another. Some mytho-historic. Some as tall spacer's tales. Some folktales. Some as purely fictional works. That way you get to keep the material and just wave the "unreliable narrator" flag anytime anyone questions the continuity of say for example; The Elder's lighsaber design showing up in the Bogan Collection or somesuch.
They don't need to be of course, it's just fun to think of how some could fit.
I had never heard any of that before, I had no idea there were so many technical reasons for the colors, I had just assumed it was purely creative choice on the creators parts.
There's usually some technical or practical consideration that shapes most decisions like this. Like how the Falcon got an 11th hour redesign because 'Space: 1999' came out during pre-production, and it's ship looked way too much like what ILM had built for comfort. Or all the blasters are based on WWII firearms because that what the local theatrical armoury near Elstree had in abundance.
 
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Indeed, 'The Duel' is the only one that feels like it can't fit into canon without a lot of glossing over of certain details. I mean if one ignores the presence of certain movie era designs, then it could easily take place during the Fall of the Old Republic.
Notably, if you search for online articles regarding the project that's the one chapter in particular where they seem to say it's not meant to fit. As to the movie era designs in question, if one were to try to square peg it somewhere in the canon timeline, the used stormtrooper armor seems to imply it could be in the post ROTJ period. The question arises, who are the protagonist and the villain? Where did they come from? They have red sabers - are they former Inquisitors? Who did the protagonist get all the red crystals from?
 
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Has anyone started in on season 2 yet? I'm wondering about the language issue here. In season 1, since they were made in Japan with Japanese themes and sensibilities, I watched in Japanese with subtitles, which seemed more appropriate. Here, it's more international, and the released credits mention dub casts for some of them. The credits for the Studio Mir episode seem to treat the Korean cast as the default and the English dub as an alternate.

So do all the episodes default to English unless you set them otherwise, like in season 1? Or do some of them default to other languages? I ideally want to watch the original-language version of each one.
 
Just got done with Vol 2 and just like with Vol 1 I feel like I need to go through a few of them again to fully digest. In brief though; I feel like overall it's a better season than the first. Not to denigrate the work of any of the Japanese studios in any way, but the sheer diversity of creative voices here really helps the larger body of work. I felt at a certain point, a lot of Vol 1 started to get a little repetitive as (for obvious reasons) a lot of them focused on very similar elements.
Here each culture brings something uniquely theirs to the table, plus the visual styles and animation technologies are all vastly different. There's still some overlap with some recurring ideas, but here it somehow feels less derivative and more convergent in nature.

At first blush I'd say my subjective favourite is probably 'Screecher's Reach'. I liked the rough, simplistic graphic style, and the very folkloric parable nature of the story itself (admittedly I may have some Celtic heritage bias.) I could easily see this being both an in-universe folktale AND an actual event that happened. Also I did not see that final twist coming.
I mean we basically saw the origin story of a Sith Lord. For all we know that kid went on to build the Temple of Malachor, or trained Darth Momin as her apprentice.

Also interesting that again, even though this is all meant to be non-canon, the creators seem to have unanimously decided to try their level best to make sure their stories still fit somewhere in the timeline. I don't think I spotted anything really anachronistic. Of the nine shorts, five were explicitly set either during or between the first two trilogies, while the other four were clearly during the time of the Old Republic (Aau's Song is a little more ambiguous as it could just as easily be pre-High Republic as Old Republic, or even post-Rey's NJO.)
 
Two shorts in. So far, solid, but neither have reached the heights of Season 1 yet (nor its depths, though.)
 
I have one more episode to go and I think it's all just ok. I'm not an anime fan so that's probably why this stuff doesn't have much of an impact on me. I didn't care much for the first anthology. I find some of the stories to be barely Star Wars. Very generic stories with Star Wars clothing. If even.

I do appreciate that this second anthology includes studios from around the world. It is interesting to see other culture's take on Star Wars but at the same time I don't like that it sort of marginalizes it at the same time. I'd rather it be more inclusive than having an African story, and here's the Chinese one, and the Polish take, ....etc....But I suppose that can't be helped because of the very nature of the project.

I also would have wished to have seen a continuation of some of the stories told in the first set. The Ninth Jedi has potential for a follow up I think.
 
I think the first two, "Sith" and "Screecher's Reach," are excellent, in fact outstanding. "In the Stars" and "I Am Your Mother" are good, but not as good as the first two. That's as far as I've gotten, so far.
 
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I think the first two. "Sith" and "Screecher's Reach." are excellent, in fact outstanding. "In the Stars" and "I Am Your Mother" are good, but not as good as the first two. That's as far as I've gotten, so far.

I've also only watched those four, but "In the Stars" was my fav out of the bunch, the most heartfelt and emotional one for sure.
 
That's exactly what Star Wars is and has always been.

Maybe. Although I would argue in the beginning George Lucas took familiar fantasy/mythological story lines and spun it into something unique. Or at least more accessible than Dune. That's why it resonated worldwide.

However, I would have just thought by now, after almost half a century, we would get something better. To me, these Vision episodes are rather generic. It just has a SW skin on it for many of them. And maybe that's all that they have to be.

There is a difference. I may just not be explaining it better.
 
I wouldn't say Lucas created something unique, since he was just trying to do an homage to Flash Gordon and the serials and movies he loved as a child. The most distinctive thing about SW wasn't the storytelling, but the groundbreaking visual effects and high production values applied to a genre that had previously been the stuff of low-budget serials and B movies.

The most unique thing is that it's a pastiche so influential that it displaced the things it was pastiching in the minds of the public. The only reason people today think SW was unique or original was because they've forgotten all the older stuff that it was meant to remind people of.
 
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