Yeah, that’s not how it works.
Ok. What is the chance of a Picard spinoff?
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I can hear the music already.
It actually is. Let's go over to Star Wars. Tell me Bad Batch / Rise of the Empire era is at the middle of that franchise at the moment and not the Mandalorian post-RotJ / Rise of the FIrst Order era.
Same thing here. 23rd century is the core of Trek atm. Has been since 2009. 24th/25th century is an accessory.
What's interesting is that regardless of when the flagship show is set, "present day" of the Star Trek Universe is (currently) the early 25th century. It's not as easy to say why this is (it's not the farthest future anymore) but it still holds true even with Discovery in the 31st century.
For my part I absolutely think the franchise should center on the 25th century. I think the 23rd century focus is an artifact of a misunderstanding about the nature of Trek and what brought fans into it from the 2000s that walked on for a decade like a zombie.
In my idea vision:
- the 23rd century, the past, would amp up the silly adventure to the nth degree, much like SNW seems to be doing in Season 2. This is where you go for action adventure. This is a saturday morning cartoon.
- The 25th century, the present, would focus on long running plot lines and characters, be more "realistic" and relatable and continue what Picard Season 3 did. This would be more talky, a bit slower, a bit more grown up.
-the 32nd century, the far future, is where the weird, experimental shit goes. This is where the franchise can take its biggest, most disruptive risks (can always cut off the future timeline). Wanna crash the moon into earth? Do it.
We basically have that, albeit the 25th century show doesn't exist yet besides Picard, which is over.
I think the 25th century is "the Present" for two reasons. First of all, the 24th century cast/crew/stories are the ones that the large majority of Trek fans grew up with at this point, and is the largest body of work. SO it's by far the most familiar.
The second reason, connected to that, is those seasons happened in near real time (1 season of the show = 1 year in the Star Trek universe), and even with the gap the resumption of 25th century stories happened in near real time. We're a few years off in actuality, but it's damn close to picking up where we left off in 2002 when Nemesis ended the 24th century run that began in 1987. This mattered most of all, because it has allowed characters and actors to age in real time. Voyager ended 22 years ago, and Jeri Ryan is 22 years older, and we're all 22 years older, and the story is set about 23 years after Voyager returned.
That's why it's the Present. Because we see ourselves in Stewart, Ryan, Frakes, McFadden and so forth. Yeah they're older, but so are we. This is why I think if they did a live action show set in, say, 2382, it wouldn't feel like "the present" but rather the past, which is why doing the post-Nemesis era in animation is clever. If they started doing a live action series and everyone was wearing First Contact uniforms still, it wouldn't feel current, especially not after Picard Season 3.
Not a question I asked or one I answered. LD and PRO can’t be dismissed because they are animated, comedy or for kids. Might was well say VOY was “fringe” because it was set in the Delta Quadrant.
There is no “core” at the moment. We have shows set in the 23rd, 24th and 32nd Centuries. And one that just ended set in the 25th. It’s not like the 90s with all the shows and films set in the same era. The last movie set in the 23rd Century came out nearly a decade ago. Might be a full decade before we see another And that’s a mighty big might.
Yeah, the metrics of television success have dramatically changed in just the last ten years. ENT's numbers were horrible by 2005 standards, but by today's standards it would probably be doing just fine. Similarly, actor Kyrsten Ritter noted on the podcast Inside of You that her TV show from about ten years ago, Don't Trust the B---- in Apartment 23 got cancelled for numbers that would be considered a huge hit today.
So how likely is it now?
I'm gunna say pretty likely.
I'm gunna say pretty likely.
SNW's "Girl named Duracell" notwithstanding.
It's one reason SNW was greenlit (the Kelvin movies are taking so long to get started).
Did it make money though?So how likely is it now?
I'm gunna say pretty likely.
I'd assume so, considering it was in the Top Ten.
These scores make sense. S1 was divisive. So the score is split down the middle. A lot of people didn't like S2. If even I'm not defending S2, that's saying something. And then there's S3.So how likely is it now?
I'm gunna say pretty likely.
On top of that, Alex Kurtzman goes out of his way to say we've been heard. So there you go.
Hopefully your assumption is accurate.
Yup. So we'll see if this bears fruit.
Didn't they also (repeatedly) say "the fans have been heard" before they announced SNW? I seem to remember something like that.
Indeed. Which is why I am so curious about what happens next.
Starfleet Academy has its large rear end in the way, so for now I would imagine it's on hold until we say goodbye to one of the other shows.
P+ has different subscription plans. The cheapest one is ad based and has tv like breaks during episodes.
They can still silently cancel the production of SFA32 and use the funds for #StarTrekLegacy. Then, in a few years they can produce a one off tv movie with Brendan Fraser, playing the head of Starfleet Academy…
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Yup. That's exactly what I would expect.
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