Yeah, we’re talking about apples and oranges here.
Would like to see Enterprise come back…
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Yeah, we’re talking about apples and oranges here.
I dunno, both ended their runs on terms that weren't their own. Seems comparable enough to me.
And besides, with Trek and literally infinite possibilities for these new streaming movies, short series, and anything else they want to throw at the wall, anything and everything is at least possible.
I bet you we'll again see Archer yet.
Don’t get me wrong: I’d be happy to see the cast come back, even if it was for just a one-off thing to negate that piece of shit episode TATV. I simply don’t think CBS cares all that much about the ENT cast, at least not enough to give them a new series.
I couldn't say what CBS cares for or not. I wouldn't have suspected they cared that much for Tilly and a bunch of kids at school, yet, someone sold them on the idea and soon it will be a thing.
All it takes is a showrunner with passion to sell them on, say, the Romulan War. The casting of some of the Enterprise crew would be secondary to the story/setting which would be the hook.
CBS cares about producing shows that cost them very little, but pay off big time in revenue. That means producing cheaply-made shows or shows using currently existing assets (like SFA will be doing.) Or a TV movie every two or three years. If they decided they wanted the ENT cast to come back, the latter option would be the most logical. And that’s even if they want to come back.
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Cost very little? Have you seen the shows?
I’m not talking about what they’ve produced so far. I’m talking about what they plan on producing now, now that they’ve realized that their streaming service is losing money because they’re spending too much cash on their shows but not enough people are signing up for Paramount+ for them to get a return on their investment.
If they want more subscribers, instead pushing projects TPTB want to see such as Starfleet Academy, maybe push for Star Trek the audience actually wants to see?
Just a suggestion.
I don’t think TPTB really want a Starfleet Academy show any more than we do. It’s just a cheaper show to produce than something else because they can utilize already existing assets from DSC.
And this Section 31 movie with Yeoh? I would bet good money it will take place in the present day rather than some future time, to alleviate having to build elaborate sets, props, CGI models, etc.
You are talking like you have some inside knowledge that I'm certain you do not. This fantasy conjecture posted as fact is foolish. Please give it a rest.
It is perfectly reasonable to infer that one of the possible reasons for making Starfleet Academy is that it may be cheaper to produce, but that doesn't mean that the producers don't want to tell that story or don't believe there is the potential to develop an audience for it. Similarly, I think it is a bit premature to claim that they're going to set Section 31 in the present-day. They're paying for an Academy Award-winning actor -- I would be surprised if they went cheap on this one.
My hypothesis about Section 31 stemmed from Carl’s statement that he sent her back in time to a point where the two universes were more similar before they started to diverge. That would mean at least before 2063 when we see Mirror Cochrane and the rest of the post-apocalyptic human survivors attack and kill the Vulcans at the start of ‘In A Mirror Darkly.’ (Technically if we consider IAMD’s opening credits to be evidence, the divergence happened even earlier than the present day, but that’s subject to interpretation.)
Ah, good catch! That's a decent point, though I interpreted that line as a reference to whatever complicated physics allowed people from the Prime Universe and Mirror Universe to transverse their dimensions in the 23rd and 24th Centuries rather than to the point of divergence in history per se.
But that doesn't mean Star Trek will suddenly turn into a low budget franchise, it more likely just means we won't have three live action shows running concurrently, with two live action shows and two cartoons they have Star Trek almost year round, if they do a standalone movie like Section 31 yearly as an event to promote they're more than good and save a load of money.
Of course reusing sets and assets is cheaper than creating everything from scratch but that's not being cheap, that's common sense. TNG used TOS movie sets which then became the Voyager sets and the monster maroons lasted for decades in universe because it was cheaper to put actors in them to show a uniform from the past regardless of the exact time period than it was to create a new uniform, they've always done that.
If they want cheap, there is no cheaper avenue than animation. Paramount currently has two different animation styles in production (LD, and PRO). Though obviously, they have to get approval of using their likeness. And if Paramount can’t get approval of using the ENT cast’s likeness for animation, just say so. Why dance around it? Seems a lot easier than saying the show is unpopular and that’s the basis for a lack of new content. I think we all know that there aren’t even comics of ENT available, even though I’m sure diehards would pick up a miniseries if it was produced. Likeness issues would be the only sane reason why we don’t even have ENT comics or graphic novels to read, period.
Considering that it is a spinoff of the least popular Disco S4 episode, being critical of it isn’t uncalled for. Especially when lack of popularity is cited as why ENT isn’t being revisited.
Actually that would mean before the 27th century.
And what does the whole audience want to see?
This is the key point. Shows like Star Trek rely on a much larger audience than just the hardcore fans. The opinions of the people who post here probably only represent a tiny portion of the overall audience, who typically don't go on internet forums to make their opinions known. They just stop watching.
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