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Meanwhile, me at 4 years old watching TOS:
Me: "Mom, she's really good at sucking out his salt."
Mom: <_< >_>
Me: "Mom, she's really good at sucking out his salt."
Mom: <_< >_>
Thats it. I dont consider Disc , SNW , or Picard cannon
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Yeah that is about the same with my wife and I. Like in Season 3 which we recently watched Ensigns of Command, Booby Trap, The Enemy, Yesterdays Enterprise, The Offspring, Sins of the Father, Sarek and BOBW.
The other episodes, while some may have some interesting points, in general aren't worth the 40 minutes it takes to get to the 4 minutes of value
The other episodes, while some may have some interesting points, in general aren't worth the 40 minutes it takes to get to the 4 minutes of value
That makes me think of STNG and 'Imaginary Friend'.
While I like the episode, some of it is two little girls trying to get along and decide what to do next. Picard's speech in the end saves the entire episode though. =)
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Sadly, just picking episodes is something that doesn't really work in DIS or PIC
That is where stand alone episodes win.
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I was thinking about this recently after watching Jessie Gender's thoughts on what Trek episodes to show newcomers to the franchise.
While TNG is very episodic, it still has some continuity to be aware of. For example, one good episode that comes to mind is "Yesterday's Enterprise"--but to fully appreciate it, you should have watched season 1. To fully appreciate "The Measure of a Man", you should have familiarised yourself with Data.
Compare to the even more episodic TOS, where you can just pick whatever episode you want because it just doesn't matter at all. Unless you want to recommend "I, Mudd" to a newcomer, but in that case you're trying to scare them away from Star Trek anyway.
While TNG is very episodic, it still has some continuity to be aware of. For example, one good episode that comes to mind is "Yesterday's Enterprise"--but to fully appreciate it, you should have watched season 1. To fully appreciate "The Measure of a Man", you should have familiarised yourself with Data.
Compare to the even more episodic TOS, where you can just pick whatever episode you want because it just doesn't matter at all. Unless you want to recommend "I, Mudd" to a newcomer, but in that case you're trying to scare them away from Star Trek anyway.
No you can't just pic random episodes in Picard and have it be fine like you could in TNG. However the difference is that Picard is 10 episodes, TNG Season 3 alone had 26 episodes. In Picard you have the interlinked story arc that makes it hard to pull a single link from that chain and have it make any sense..its just the nature of a limited run series like that.
SNW however is the old style Trek, episodic..cloud/box/monster/mystery of the week and generally they're self contained. You may have themes that run from episode to episode..but there isn't anything in..Ghosts of Illyrium that makes it where if you didn't see Spock Amok, or vice versa, wouldn't make sense.
Its because the two series are structured differently
SNW however is the old style Trek, episodic..cloud/box/monster/mystery of the week and generally they're self contained. You may have themes that run from episode to episode..but there isn't anything in..Ghosts of Illyrium that makes it where if you didn't see Spock Amok, or vice versa, wouldn't make sense.
Its because the two series are structured differently
No response to any one person, just a comment in general: Just watch from Episode 1 to Episode 10 of a season. Stop at any point and pick up again. It's not that hard.
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I prefer the way STNG did it. (surprising isn't it?) That's the way TV was at that time.
There are some storylines in the background that are visited occasionally but every single episode doesn't have to be about some certain storyline.
The trial on humanity might be the most obvious one, starting in 'Encounter at Farpoint' and ending with 'All Good Things...'.
There were others.
Sela, Tasha is a member of the crew and is lost on away mission. Timeline twists for a moment, she is back. Timeline gets back to normal but suddenly Tasha has a half Romulan daughter.
Worf had a relationship going with a Klingon lady who ends up beign an ambassador for the empire. She helps to pick a Klingon leader. Worf has a brother and both end up in a big role in Klingon civil war. Then there's the matter of fungus in a tube like Worf put it, Kahless. All these things are visited here and there but every episode isn't involved with them. Look, a space jellyfish, let's examine that and then help Worf restore his family name.
The Borg appear when they want to but it's not a war consuming the entire series. It does have repercussions in some episodes.
That's the obvious solution. Twenty-plus years at this board and it still boggles my mind that so many people refuse to avail themselves of this option. Life's much too short to waste any of it on things you (general you) don't enjoy - especially something as trivial as a TV show.
This is another perfectly simple option. Watch episodes you enjoy. Stop watching shows if you don't like them (as I did at various points with DS9, Enterprise and Discovery).
It certainly shouldn't be.
Hey, some of us are still around. We're not all dead yet.
Seriously, though. This is an old, old story -- and not just for Trek. Trust me, there are old-school PLANET OF THE APES fans who insist that it isn't "real'' POTA unless the actors are wearing the original John Chambers makeups ("No CGI chimps!"), GODZILLA fans who insist that only "real" GODZILLA movies feature a guy in a rubber suit, that Lynda Carter is the only "true" Wonder Woman, etc. I've heard it all before.
None of this stuff is set in stone, but every generation insists that the version they grew up on is the one, true version -- and how dare they update it to appeal to today's audiences?
I still remember the irate Trekkie who lamented of the latest Trek shows. "They're making these shows for millennials!"
Well, of course. Who do we think the prime demographic is these days? Who is the future of the fandom?
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Exactly, we watch these programs because we enjoy them.
Enjoyment should be the decider what we watch on TV.
Take that back....
Enterprise, you say? In the immortal words of James Dixon:
But please explain how you're right but the people saying the exact same utter nonsense in the 2000's were wrong.
Can't resist pointing out that "it puts me to sleep" may not be the ringing endorsement you think it is.
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