Hopefully with more Captain Teva. Probably one of the more interesting characters, and finally not so irritating.
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And thankfully Paul Sun-Hyung Lee seems like a genuinely lovely bloke, and not at all likely to start spouting bigotry, so an upgrade all round!
Still, I could have sworn I specifically said the words "head canon". The way people reacted you'd think I just claimed to have broken into LF and secretly altered the holocron entry or something.
Not only is it an option, it's better for your health!
Still, I could have sworn I specifically said the words "head canon". The way people reacted you'd think I just claimed to have broken into LF and secretly altered the holocron entry or something.
For me the predictability was kind of the problem. After TLJ it looked like they were deliberately going off the beaten track and actually trying something different . . . and then they just went the most derivative route possible.
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I think we can thank angry fanboys for causing Disney to panic and go running back to the "safe" arms of J.J. Abrams instead of going with whatever Colin Trevorrow had in mind.
I'm sure that wasn't the main contributing factor but it certainly didn't help any.
I'm not convinced that was even a factor. The box office and critical response to 'The Book of Henry' on the other hand might have played more of a role.
Honestly I'm still not sure why he was sacked (though claims abound) but since I've not enjoyed a single movie he's either written or directed, I find it hard to fault the decision.
For all my problems with JJ's creative decisions, he's at least a competent director (and a legitimately nice person that the crew seem to like) so I understand why they went back to him to round off the trilogy given the timetable.
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I have the security camera footage.
What does this even mean? Do you think Abrams controls the visual dictionary? Who is the guy that Lucas personally taught? Filoni? How likely is it that his work would even necessarily address this issue?
Didn't Trevorrow supposedly insist on having Luke alive for his film?
And here I thought you could recognise a Clawdite using a shadow hologram when you saw one. For shame!
Also, I was nowhere near the place when I disabled the camera.
Look, I've sliced a couple of security systems it had your fingerprints all over it.
Literally.
I will agree with that up to a certain point. Once I kind of went, "Oh, that's were they're going" then I accepted it and moved on. Again, it's not my favorite film nor is it the decisions that I would have made. But, if I am going to enjoy it, especially because of the characters I like, then I'm going to have to make peace with it.
Or head canon as needed. Either way.
I admit I'm not a fan of Trevorrow either (see: all of Jurassic World films, although at least Dominion was mostly fun). I'm just lamenting the impulse to run back to the beaten path of Abrams, although I agree he's a good director.
Unfortunately, if I recall correctly, I believe that he difficulty meeting the deadlines of what the studio wanted. So, Kennedy went to someone who was reliable and could produce it on time and under budget, which Abrams is very good at doing.
With the cluster from Disney that became Solo in terms of marketing and management I think they wanted a good showing for the ownership. But, that's supposition on my part.
I'm already imagining Mando's Naboo fighter flying alongside Teva's X-Wing as they fly off on adventures and I like this imagery.
It's kind of a pet peeve of mine when a story has a lot of potential and is *almost* good, but makes some key baffling and creatively bereft decisions, it just irks me. They had some good material, but it was material for like three other completely different movies and couldn't decide what to drop, so they just shoved it all in at once . . . and still somehow managed to waste most of the runtime on a pointless McGuffin hunt.
If something is just shite from beginning to end, then I just move on and don't care either way. I guess it comes down to wasted potential and squandered opportunities.
Also tRoS is the only Star Wars movie that made me feel like I just wasted 2 hours. I think the point where they lost me was when Chewie died, but when the REALLY lost me was that is was a fake-out. After that, I just couldn't engage or care, however much I might want to. Once you pull a stunt like that, you've basically told the audience that the stakes are at zero, and anything can be reversed, so nothing that happens actually matters. And sure enough, they later fake-kill Rey too, and I was utterly unmoved. Hell if you count the BS Palpatine reveal in the crawl, they did that THREE times in one movie! I'm honestly a little shocked they resisted the urge to bring Ben back to life too.
I didn't even bother with Dominion. JW for me felt like for the original movies what Force Awakens was for Star Wars, but done by someone that wasn't a very good director, and didn't understand what made the original work in the first place (so only half like TFA.) The thing with what happened to the PA rather typifies that.
I gave the second one a chance, but I can't remember a damn thing about it, except something about that girl being a clone or something, and a volcano exploded.
Generally if I can't remember a movie, I assume it's bad and don't come back again.
All they need is a brand new T-70 in the squadron, and they'll have all three trilogies representing!
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So why was 'when Chewie died' the point where they lost you? At that point - thinking he was actually dead - you should have been suitably impressed by the nonzero stakes, something that happened and actually mattered, etc.Reverend said:
The Palpatine reveal in the crawl faked out the audience? This makes no sense whatsoever. The other example of the movie playing takebacksies was Rey giving up the saber.
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I am shocked by it but my wife was glad for it.
And, I'll freely admit that TPM was the first experience in Star Wars that made me go, "What a waste." And I think that it was rectified by reading the novel, and really engaging with the ancillary material that helped me through that irritation that I had walking out of the theater.
Now, I'll freely admit that stakes are something that is less concerning to me, at least at my personal stage of life. The characters are what I am invested in and if I am onboard with them then I will stick with it, even if it has wasted potential. Which, I'll agree the ST had a lot of wasted potential, which frustrates me, and I do the whole fan fiction thing and rewrite stuff and whatnot.
But, at the end of the day, I love the characters. I love Rey, and Finn, and Poe, and BB-8. Luke was exactly what I need at this time in my life so I will still find good things in the ST.
Now see, my opinion of the PT has gone up and down, but I was never not entertained, one way or the other. Same for TFA & TLJ. There are things I liked (mostly the characters & performances) and there are things I didn't, but I was never not engaged. tRoS is the only time I felt *nothing*, and that's a shame because I feel like the cast and crew deserved a better movie.
Also I did try reading the novelization to see if that made it any better, but couldn't make it all the way through. Another first.
It really takes a LOT for me to not enjoy a Star War, but tRoS managed it.
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And that's fair.I remember walking out of TPM shaking my head, even as a teen, and ROTS was disappointing. I found myself wanting it to be done. That's not what I'm looking for.
And I get everyone has their line. TROS is only mildly disappointing in parts, not as a whole experience. Which is why, to semi attempt to bring it back on topic, Mandalorian had value to me until this season was the flavorful world building I did miss from the ST. Now, I welcome the shows rather than tolerate them at times.
Accurate.
Only thing the good captain needs is appropriate sandals
I was really shocked how much they tied up everything with the finale, honestly when it was over, I had serious suspicions that it was end of the series. It really felt like a series finale.
I had been assuming all along that Gideon and his people had been after Grogu as part of the plant to clone Palpatine, but apparently it was for Gideon's own clones.
I was a little shocked we didn't get any cameos from a legacy character or any more direct set up for Ahsoka.
We got some really great action with this one, especially the big Gideon vs Bo Katan, Din and Grogu.
I love that they had Grogu throwing around the bad guys and their weapons during the fights. Was this the first we've really seen him take part of those kind of fights?
I a little surprised they actually had Axe take off with his jetpack before the ship crashed, as soon as the ship started to crash I had assumed they were killing him off.
I'm definitely looking forward to seeing where they go with Season 4, now that they're starting with an almost clean slate. I could see them doing a time jump and maybe giving us a slightly older Grogu.
I had been assuming all along that Gideon and his people had been after Grogu as part of the plant to clone Palpatine, but apparently it was for Gideon's own clones.
I was a little shocked we didn't get any cameos from a legacy character or any more direct set up for Ahsoka.
We got some really great action with this one, especially the big Gideon vs Bo Katan, Din and Grogu.
I love that they had Grogu throwing around the bad guys and their weapons during the fights. Was this the first we've really seen him take part of those kind of fights?
I a little surprised they actually had Axe take off with his jetpack before the ship crashed, as soon as the ship started to crash I had assumed they were killing him off.
I'm definitely looking forward to seeing where they go with Season 4, now that they're starting with an almost clean slate. I could see them doing a time jump and maybe giving us a slightly older Grogu.
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