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NFL 2023: A different shade of green for Aaron Rodgers

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The owner of the Houston Rockets put in a bid, but it was less than the asking price apparently and nothing is coming of it.
 
Jeff Bezos didn't place a bid on the Commanders. Scuttlebutt is he's waiting to buy a team with a good stadium and without a tarnished reputation, possibly the Seahawks.
 
Jeff Bezos didn't place a bid on the Commanders. Scuttlebutt is he's waiting to buy a team with a good stadium and without a tarnished reputation, possibly the Seahawks.

Snyder wasn't going to sell the team to Bezos, ever, because Bezos' Washington Post was the outlet that blew the lid on the stories about what an unholy piece of shit Snyder is.
 
Gotta love seeing Snyder get a $6 billion reward for being a terrible owner as well as a piece of shit human being.
 
Yep. The new ownership can start by basically doing the opposite of what Snyder has done since he bought the team. Let the GM and coaches do their jobs without meddling interference.

It became clear to anyone paying attention to Snyder’s antics that he didn’t know fuck-all about football. His doubling and tripling down on fielding flash-in-the-pan RGIII over Shanahan’s choice of Kirk Cousins (arguably a better QB at the time) was the last straw for most fans. He then continued the petty bullshit after RGIII had long-since flamed out and refused to sign Cousins on as a full-time franchise quarterback. Such tugs of war are bad for team morale and bad for publicity.

Every time he pulled unprofessional nonsense like that it blew up in his face and the team suffered for it. The allegations of pimping out the cheerleaders was only the most recent debacle, and I’m sure was only the tip of the real iceberg of darkness that plagued the team for two decades. He really is a fucking demon and this sale cannot happen soon enough.

Now if Dallas could only figure out how to get rid of Jerry Jones. Cut from the same cloth, those two…
 
Yep. The new ownership can start by basically doing the opposite of what Snyder has done since he bought the team. Let the GM and coaches do their jobs without meddling interference.

It became clear to anyone paying attention to Snyder’s antics that he didn’t know fuck-all about football. His doubling and tripling down on fielding flash-in-the-pan RGIII over Shanahan’s choice of Kirk Cousins (arguably a better QB at the time) was the last straw for most fans. He then continued the petty bullshit after RGIII had long-since flamed out and refused to sign Cousins on as a full-time franchise quarterback. Such tugs of war are bad for team morale and bad for publicity.

I think that's a little unfair to RG3. Shanahan badly abused him and essentially broke him.
 
He also apparently hid the severity of an old college injury from 2009 (torn ACL) from everyone that, had Shanahan or anyone known about it, would likely have handled things differently. This was discovered shortly after he blew out his knee on one fateful playoff game against Seattle that many of us in Washington at the time remember seeing. I remember every morning sports show was talking about it during Monday commute. You could hear the collective gasp in the city when it happened. This article gives a nice breakdown of his injury history.

He sold himself as a Michael Vick-style running QB and they built their whole offensive playbook around that assertion. He had a great rookie year when everything was made to look like the land of milk and honey (the height of Snyder’s hubris), then in Griffin’s second season, the wheels started falling off the wagon and we all know what came after.

After going back and reading a number of articles online about his continuous injuries (and alleged miraculous recoveries), it could also be argued that the Redskins’ medical staff (and Dr. James Andrews, who repaired his knee) hyped up Griffin’s recovery, having him return to the field quicker than he probably should have, even going so far as calling his healing ability “superhuman”. Maybe not so much? Methinks Snyder dumped a lot of money in people’s laps to get his prized stallion back on the field. A conspiracy theory, I know, but I wouldn’t put it past that little skid mark to pull a stunt like that to save face.

Yes, Shanahan could have done a lot of things differently and better, granted, but there was plenty of blame to lay at RG’s feet as well for how things fell apart. He kept pushing himself in the extreme to stay active on the team when he knew it was going way too far. Certainly not an innocent bystander when it was all going down the drain, but an active contributor.

I honestly knew he was doomed when he came up with his new personal logo before his second season started (speaking of hubris). A sports icon needs to wait a while to solidify his legacy in his chosen profession before commissioning a freaking logo! I’m talking Tiger Woods or Michael Jordan-level greatness with several seasons already under the belt.

Pride cometh before the fall, and all that…
 
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He also apparently hid the severity of an old college injury from 2009 (torn ACL) from everyone that, had Shanahan or anyone known about it, would likely have handled things differently. This was discovered shortly after he blew out his knee on one fateful playoff game against Seattle that many of us in Washington at the time remember seeing. I remember every morning sports show was talking about it during Monday commute. You could hear the collective gasp in the city when it happened. This article gives a nice breakdown of his injury history.

How did Washington not know about this? They spend tons of money on scouting and medical staffs. It feels like revisionism, to divert criticism from the team/Shanahan.
 
I think maybe they knew about it but it was heavily downplayed. I do recall there being some surprise on the part of a number of team staffers when they realized that Griffin’s injuries were far more severe than originally thought. The fact that he assured everyone that he was good to play so soon after the corrective surgery (and exacerbated by Andrews’ flowery post-op assessment) gives credibility to the notion that Griffin may have simply been in denial over the depth of his injuries.

I will admit myself that my memories are fuzzy about what went down in DC back then. It was 10 years ago. I do remember a lot of shit being thrown around at damn near everyone on the team who was even remotely involved. It was a very sad time. We really had a lot of hope tied to Griffin and Shanahan, both being good enough to make things work. It was on par with the hope manufactured by the infamous Second Coming of Joe Gibbs, who only proved that he spent too much time racing cars and that the new-model NFL passed him by while he was still using his 1980’s playbook. Nobody knew soul-crushing disappointment more than a Washington Redskins fan.
 
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I think maybe they knew about it but it was heavily downplayed. I do recall there being some surprise on the part of a number of team staffers when they realized that Griffin’s injuries were far more severe than originally thought. The fact that he assured everyone that he was good to play so soon after the corrective surgery (and exacerbated by Andrews’ flowery post-op assessment) gives credibility to the notion that Griffin may have simply been in denial over the depth of his injuries.

If you're talking about how Griffin got hurt again in the wild card game against the Seahawks, Shanahan flat-out lied: Dr. Andrews had not cleared Griffin to play the month prior--because Andrews had never even examined him. But Shanahan said that Andrews told Shanahan that Griffin was good to go.

Shanahan also downplayed a head injury that Griffin received earlier that season, announcing that he was merely "shaken up," as opposed to admitting that he had a concussion. That got him and the team in hot water with the NFL for falsifying an injury report.

Shanahan held absolute malice against Griffin, for whatever reason, and is pretty much responsible for Griffin's career ending not with a bang, but a whimper.
 
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I think we're getting the timelines cross-threaded. What you said was certainly true, that Andrews hadn't been heavily involved with Griffin yet to clear him for the Seattle game after spraining his LCL a month before. It wasn't until after the playoffs that Andrews got involved to perform corrective surgery on the blown-out knee. It wasn't until only a mere two months after the injury that Andrews said that Griffin's recovery was "superhuman" (a term he used several times) and that he was "way ahead of schedule" to return for the upcoming 2013 season with "expectations of a full recovery". Not much reasonable bar-setting there, is it? To Griffin's credit, he seemed to be the only one to try to establish reasonable expectations for his own return.

Now, as for all the Shanahan "lying" business, Dr. Andrews went on record about this only 2 days after the injury, saying:
"Coach Shanahan didn't lie about it, and I didn't lie," Andrews said. "I didn't get to examine (Griffin's knee) because he came out for one play, didn't let us look at him and on the next play, he ran through all the players and back out onto the field. Coach Shanahan looks at me like, 'Is he OK?' and I give him the 'Hi' sign as in, 'He's running around, so I guess he's OK.' But I didn't get to check him out until after the game. It was just a communication problem. Heat of battle. I didn't get to tell him I didn't get to examine the knee. Mike Shanahan would never have put him out there at risk just to win a game."
So, this sounds more to me like an unfortunate set of circumstances and miscommunications that led to an even more unfortunate result.

Now, if one is looking for a more nefarious conspiracy theory-ladened motivation for Shanahan to destroy Griffin's career (and it really would be stupid for him to have done such a thing, as it would have eventually come out from someone - which never happened), it could be postulated by some that Shanahan disliked how Snyder was back-seat driving the team (like he always did, every season); Shanahan preferred Cousins over Griffin and he stacked the deck against Griffin to try to get him benched, proving to everyone that Snyder has no clue how to run a team (which he doesn't, but that's beside the point). If this were true, then the petty little shit that Snyder was would have done literally everything in his power to demolish Shanahan for willful negligence of a million-dollar player. This, too, never happened. If he ever thought he was in danger of being crushed by Shanahan, he would have run to Snyder to preemptively put an end to it. That never happened, either. Which pretty much proves that it didn't happen this way.

While it is technically impossible to logically prove a negative, there is absolutely no evidence that Shanahan actively sought to wreck RGIII, especially since Griffin's overblown ego (see my sentiments on his post rookie-year "logo" foolishness before it all came crashing down) refused to let him hold back. Was Griffin a team player? Absolutely, no question. But I do question his motivation sometimes - was he doing it for the team, or his own personal glory? Which path was more important to him? He ran into danger in damn near every game with all the QB options and that made him a willing participant of his own demise. There is quite a bit of evidence to support this scenario.

In any case, I feel I've spent enough time on this research exercise into a dark time in 'Skins history that I really would have preferred not to re-live. It's been fun, but I think we can stick a fork in this one.
 
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Dr. James Andrews Disputes Coach Mike Shanahan's Version of Washington Redskins Quarterback Robert Griffin III Knee Injury.

When Washington Redskins rookie quarterback Robert Griffin III injured his knee on a gruesome collision in the fourth quarter of a 31-28 victory against the Baltimore Ravens on Dec. 9, he limped off the field for one play, then hobbled back into the huddle as fans and teammates held their breath.

Griffin, clearly injured and in pain, remained in the game for four plays before removing himself.

The following day, when the team revealed Griffin had suffered a sprained lateral collateral ligament, coach Mike Shanahan was asked why he had risked the health of his franchise quarterback by putting him back into the game.

Shanahan said he let Griffin return with the blessing of James Andrews, the renowned orthopedic surgeon, who was on the sideline.

Andrews, however, told USA TODAY Sports on Saturday that he never cleared Griffin to go back into the game, because he never even examined him.

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Yet when asked by news reporters, Shanahan described a conversation with Andrews this way:

"He's on the sidelines with Dr. Andrews. He had a chance to look at him and he said he could go back in," Shanahan said Dec. 10. "(I said) 'Hey, Dr. Andrews, can Robert go back in?'

'Yeah, he can go back in.'

'Robert, go back in.'

"That was it," Shanahan said.

Only that's not the way it happened, Andrews said. What's more, Andrews remains worried about Griffin's health as the Redskins play the Seattle Seahawks in an NFC wild-card game at FedEx Field today.
 
That article pre-dates the one I cited by 2 days where he seems to have a different view of the events at hand and ignores the subsequent events and other evidence I cited.
 
The Philadelphia Eagles and quarterback Jalen Hurts have reached agreement on a five-year, $255 million extension, including $179.304 million guaranteed, a source told ESPN's Adam Schefter on Monday.

Hurts' deal is the biggest contract in terms of average annual value in NFL history. Deshaun Watson's $230 million contract signed last year with the Cleveland Browns, which is fully guaranteed, still is biggest in terms of guaranteed money.

Hurts' extension includes a no-trade clause -- a first in Eagles history, a source told Schefter.
 
"No-trade clause"? Wow - first I've heard of one of those. Didn't think they were possible, actually, with teams always reserving the right to trade players whenever they wanted in their contracts.

Edit: In doing some digging, it is, indeed, a rarity. Back in 2021, for example, there were apparently only 9 players in the entire NFL with NTC's - 5 of them were well-known QB's. In 2022, there were only 5.

Learn something new every day! :)
 
The Philadelphia Eagles and quarterback Jalen Hurts have reached agreement on a five-year, $255 million extension, including $179.304 million guaranteed, a source told ESPN's Adam Schefter on Monday.

Hurts' deal is the biggest contract in terms of average annual value in NFL history. Deshaun Watson's $230 million contract signed last year with the Cleveland Browns, which is fully guaranteed, still is biggest in terms of guaranteed money.

Hurts' extension includes a no-trade clause -- a first in Eagles history, a source told Schefter.

It pays to have a legitimate agent.
 
It pays to have a legitimate agent.

Seriously. Especially minding that the NFLPA caps agent commissions at 3 percent, and most earn around 1.5 percent. It's not like players lose a ton of money by having a representative.

Lamar Jackson is being a dumbass.
 
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