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Spoilers Starship Design in Star Trek: Picard

My my, did I strike a nerve?
The reality is, most people aren't going to conform to your world views.
If you expect that to happen, you're going to be in for a world of disappointment.
Exactly. Star Trek teaches us as much. We all have opposing views but we can overcome our personal biases to become better than we were before. It's literally the reason the UFP exists and why Star Trek exists.
 
My my, did I strike a nerve?
The reality is, most people aren't going to conform to your world views.
If you expect that to happen, you're going to be in for a world of disappointment.
Just so we're clear. The world view that you're defending is the right to wish death upon someone over creative choices you don't agree with. Just so we're clear. That this is a common thing and should be tolerated in fandom. Ok, gotcha.
 
Exactly. Star Trek teaches us as much. We all have opposing views but we can overcome our personal biases to become better than we were before. It's literally the reason the UFP exists and why Star Trek exists.
The UFP worked with Klingons, Cardassians, Romulans.

They knew what type of atrocities and monsters many of the people in their respective governments were.

All who know how they behave; yet over time, they changed them, eventually integrated them into the UFP.
 
Just so we're clear. The world view that you're defending is the right to wish death upon someone over creative choices you don't agree with. Just so we're clear. That this is a common thing and should be tolerated in fandom. Ok, gotcha.
We're not defending him but we aren't punishing him either by spreading further negativity. Like I said, it's not our place.
 
Exactly. Star Trek teaches us as much. We all have opposing views but we can overcome our personal biases to become better than we were before. It's literally the reason the UFP exists and why Star Trek exists.
Well, no. The reason it exists is to entertain and to make money. It also presents an optimistic world view that also tended to recognize the darker sides of humanity and would work to clarify miscommunications.

I would welcome it if someone said, "Ok, I don't wish Kurtzman dead. I just hate what he's done to Star Trek." Hey, I can understand that. But, there's a line for me. And that's my line and I'll make no apologies for it.
 
We're not defending him but we aren't punishing him either by spreading further negativity. Like I said, it's not our place.
If it's not our job as fans to police our own, whose job is it? We police our own by not supporting this kinda bullshit. To wish death upon someone is NOT alright. Any person who would do such a thing is not someone to be praised or awarded for their actions. They SHOULD be called out on the carpet.
 
Just so we're clear. The world view that you're defending is the right to wish death upon someone over creative choices you don't agree with. Just so we're clear. That this is a common thing and should be tolerated in fandom. Ok, gotcha.
The World View is that we're all free to agree to disagree on how we all behave.

The reality is that Foley said something you didn't like, doesn't mean he's a "Bad Man".

You take one statement, and decided to pass judgement on him like Judge/Jury/Executioner.

That's a bit presumptuous of you, isn't it?

To judge him on a single statement on content he produces.

Something that far too many people have also done in society (either IRL or on Camera).

And you plan to form a huge judgement call on him for that.

I think you're being overly judgemental and have jumped to a conclusion too quickly based on hearing something he said while drunk.

But hey, I'm not you. You do you. If that's how you want to live, judge somebody on one lone statement.
Then go right ahead.
 
If it's not our job as fans to police our own, whose job is it? We police our own by not supporting this kinda bullshit. To wish death upon someone is NOT alright. Any person who would do such a thing is not someone to be praised or awarded for their actions. They SHOULD be called out on the carpet.
Pretty sure YouTube does it's own policing of the content on their platform haha
 
If it's not our job as fans to police our own, whose job is it? We police our own by not supporting this kinda bullshit. To wish death upon someone is NOT alright. Any person who would do such a thing is not someone to be praised or awarded for their actions. They SHOULD be called out on the carpet.

Then go to his YT channel and make a fuss about it.

You have every right to call him out.

You're the standard bearer for what's the "Appropriate Behavior".

Go live up to your mantra.

Go to the video that he made and call him out on it.

I dare you to do one better, confront him IRL.

He's in Canada, just like you. He's not hard to find.
 
Trek Yards ain't on my '10 worst YT channels' list just becsuse Foley made a drunken threat. If that irks you enough to plaster his name all over the forums then by all means. I'm not bothered either way.
Funny how people say I'm done with this but as soon as anyone responds they have to come back to get the last word in. That speaks for itself.
 
The World View is that we're all free to agree to disagree on how we all behave.

The reality is that Foley said something you didn't like, doesn't mean he's a "Bad Man".

You take one statement, and decided to pass judgement on him like Judge/Jury/Executioner.

That's a bit presumptuous of you, isn't it?

To judge him on a single statement on content he produces.

Something that far too many people have also done in society (either IRL or on Camera).

And you plan to form a huge judgement call on him for that.

I think you're being overly judgemental and have jumped to a conclusion too quickly based on hearing something he said while drunk.

But hey, I'm not you. You do you. If that's how you want to live, judge somebody on one lone statement.
Then go right ahead.
I agree.

Can we talk about how Andrew Proberts CG Enterprise D is more accurate than the Picard version?
 
Trek Yards ain't on my '10 worst YT channels' list just becsuse Foley made a drunken threat. If that irks you enough to plaster his name all over the forums then by all means. I'm not bothered either way.
Funny how people say I'm done with this but as soon as anyone responds they have to come back to get the last word in. That speaks for itself.
People talk about being dismissive of other people's feelings and then comments like this dismiss a person's viewpoint.

Trek Yards Ain't even on my top 10 lists of YT channels I even care about much less top 10 lists of channels that I think are the worst. It's just a channel that I had limited interest in before and no interest in now supporting because of personal values.

That strikes me as incredibly important distinction that keeps getting dismissed or twisted as "he's the worst ever."

He's not. I just won't support him either and will speak my mind plainly.
 
Then go to his YT channel and make a fuss about it.

You have every right to call him out.

You're the standard bearer for what's the "Appropriate Behavior".

Go live up to your mantra.

Go to the video that he made and call him out on it.

I dare you to do one better, confront him IRL.

He's in Canada, just like you. He's not hard to find.

Yeah, because yelling into an echo chamber has even been effective. And if by mantra, you mean....generally be a decent enough person to not wish death upon a perfect stranger, or anyone for that matter. Sure, I guess that's my mantra.
 
I'll even make it easier on you.
Yeah, because yelling into an echo chamber has even been effective. And if by mantra, you mean....generally be a decent enough person to not wish death upon a perfect stranger, or anyone for that matter. Sure, I guess that's my mantra.

No Echo chamber, just 1 on 1.
You and Stuart, IRL

Here's his info:
[NO DOXXING]

He shouldn't be that hard to find after that.

You can figure out the rest of the detective work yourself.

You can probably figure out where he hangs out when he posts his Vlogs while he's walking about in his neighborhood.
 
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