Things I Will Miss About Disco

[ScottJ85]

Hopefully, producers will stop making such mistakes because they will only run the franchise to the ground faster.

No, chasing away the mainstream audience and pandering to a rapidly shrinking group of hardcore fans is what kills franchises. It came within a hair's breadth of killing Star Trek at least once before and I have no doubt it will happen again eventually.

 

[Lord Garth]

What I'll miss about Disco are new episodes, but the fact that SFA is going to be a DSC-spinoff takes the sting out of it. Before SFA was announced, I was worried that Star Trek was going to be all about "Going back to TOS!" and "Going back to TNG!" Now I see it's only going to be partly about those things. I can live with that.

 

[ralfy]

This literally never happens. Things fans think are existential threats to shows are usually not all that important. Current Trek is one of the most popular franchises in the world.

I don't think it's the most popular, which is why producers had to make major changes. The most important was to add lots of action scenes in the new movies. For STD, it's to make it look like current life, but with a sci-fi skin.

Which also explains what's important.

 

[ralfy]

No, chasing away the mainstream audience and pandering to a rapidly shrinking group of hardcore fans is what kills franchises. It came within a hair's breadth of killing Star Trek at least once before and I have no doubt it will happen again eventually.

I think what you're seeing is a new franchise.

 

[ScottJ85]

The most important was to add lots of action scenes in the new movies.

Nothing new there. Film and TV are different media with different languages. TWOK and First Contact both upped the action and were better for it.

 

[Lord Garth]

I think what you're seeing is a new franchise.

The Kelvin Films started 14 years ago and unintentionally ended seven years ago. They have nothing to do with what's going on now. But, if we're going to play this game: then Nemesis was just as action-heavy as those three films. That's the general direction genre franchise films were going in during the 2000s. If JJ hadn't rebooted the films, someone else would've, and the action quotient still would've been similar. Before you respond, bear in mind that, as far as the movies, I only really like the TOS Movies and First Contact. So I'm not some Huge JJ Fan. I'm just pointing out the direction things were going in.

For [DSC], it's to make it look like current life, but with a sci-fi skin.

I'm not even going to bother untangling what I think this means.

 

[fireproof78]

I don't think it's the most popular, which is why producers had to make major changes. The most important was to add lots of action scenes in the new movies.

This is a very surface level analysis that ignores most of the behind the scenes information and trends in filmmaking. One, even if Trek isn't the "most popular" (debatable and we have no real metric to say one way or the other) filmmaking is not an isolated activity. It involves multiple people, multiple goals and efforts being made based upon was is required by the studio. The changes to DSC were made because BTS people left, so new people came in and had to work and rework based upon what was given to them. That's not a lack of popularity; that's just what happened.

Second, adding action has occurred since TWOK. This is not a new phenomenon. This is not new to Star Trek. It has happened for the past 30 years, and every year action gets upped across the board. There is nothing about Discovery that is because of the Abrams films. It is however because of the trends in pop culture and adding action and more effects as part of storytelling efforts.

 

[F. King Daniel]

I already miss the old Disco blue uniforms. And even their bright TOS versions.

 

[ScottJ85]

But, if we're going to play this game: then Nemesis was just as action-heavy as those three films.

Hell, they added in a largely unnecessary car chase just to up the action.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Hell, they added in a largely unnecessary car chase just to up the action.

Only because Sir Patrick wanted the car chase

 

[ScottJ85]

Only because Sir Patrick wanted the car chase

Good point. And it was a fun scene, even if it didn’t make a lot of sense.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

I wonder if it was a 24th Century electric buggy or such.
Do people still drive cars or planes or anything in the future?

 

[fireproof78]

I wonder if it was a 24th Century electric buggy or such.
Do people still drive cars or planes or anything in the future?

I would hope so. Would suck if your only options are transporter or walk.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

I would hope so. Would suck if your only options are transporter or walk.

Well in Into Darkness we saw a hovercar so I guess there is that and in TUC Scotty says he bought a boat so not only do boats still exist Scotty used money

 

[Richard S. Ta]

Second, adding action has occurred since TWOK.

IIRC, those responsible for making TOS were under constant pressure to get the crew off the ship and onto planets were there could be more action.

 

[Quantum21]

I don't think it's the most popular, which is why producers had to make major changes. The most important was to add lots of action scenes in the new movies. For STD, it's to make it look like current life, but with a sci-fi skin.

Which also explains what's important.

The franchise itself is one of them, they have had six shows on in 6 years. They all found an audience and they're all different enough that they offer something for all tastes.

Since you're probably referring to Discovery though, the changes they made were certainly different from what Bryan Fuller had planned. He choose a very specific timeline and story. I think Kurtzman decided it was getting too hard to explain the differences because the original plan was to revisualize all of Star Trek for a new generation, but that was tempered to moving it out of the way to establish a new history for themselves. It was not motivated by viewership or popularity as season 2 had hit a peak for those.

 

[tomalak301]

I already miss the old Disco blue uniforms. And even their bright TOS versions.

Other than the shoes (They looked like sneakers), I liked the original Discovery uniforms.

 

[Captain Jollydark]

Other than the shoes (They looked like sneakers), I liked the original Discovery uniforms.

I started this thread with how I'd miss the sensible shoes What I really liked about the first season of Disco was that everyone (human-ish) wore the same kind of useful, practical, sensible footwear.

 

[JoseNoodles]

To add a more serious post, I will definitely also miss the high production values and the actors. While the story-telling didn't always hit the mark, I think there was some real talent and passion put into the sets and special effects. I think the actors also did well considering the material they were given at times. Hats off to them.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

I already miss the old Disco blue uniforms. And even their bright TOS versions.

I don't miss the blue ones at all but I LOVED DSC's take on the TOS unis. I wish they'd used them in SNW.