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DC Movies - To Infinity and Beyond

Rich Watson said:
"Blue Beetle" trailer coming tomorrow. Can't wait to see what makes this worthy of being bumped up to a theatrical release while "Batgirl" just gets scrapped.

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Zaslav (to Corporate Tax lawyer): "Hey if we shelve/destroy Blue Beetle can we get another production cost tax write off?"

Corporate Tax Lawyer: No.

Zaslav: "What the hell, we took a bath on Shazam II but Blue Beetle is kinda like DC's version of Spiderman...Tell marketing to put it on the release slate...with no real marketing maybe we can recoup something over the next decade."
 
The Realist said:
:rolleyes:

Neither Gunn nor anyone else announced anything remotely resembling this.

A film means whatever that film means, full stop.

A film does not have meaning or value only if it is part of a narrative continuum that never ends.

It is so deeply weird that anyone would think otherwise.
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Announcing a reboot or a cancellation of something ahead of time absolutely does have a chilling effect on the level of interest in said thing if it's not going to immediately go away.

You can deny this truth all you want and/or consider the recognition of it as truth to be weird, but that doesn't change the fact that it is a truth.
 
A couple of tidbits from Gunn on Superman: Legacy:
Gunn, meanwhile, will take the lessons of Guardians into his new universe, though perhaps not specifically to his Superman movie. “I learned so much from making these movies,” he says. “But it’s not like Superman is going to have exactly the same vibe as a Guardians movie. It’s actually quite different.” That said, does his success with Rocket make him more interested in possibly taking a chance on the first live-action cinematic version of Superman’s pet, Krypto the Superdog? He laughs. “I think I would have an interest in a live-action Krypto whether or not I had anything to do with Rocket,” he says.
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https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-mov...-preview-soundtrack-track-listing-1234707361/

Krypto? Bring it on! (Though that may actually wait for Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow -- Krypto has a small but significant role in the graphic novel.)
 
If they hadn't been upfront about their movie plans going forward you know we'd be hearing about how the producers lied to the public.
 
Nerys Myk said:
Even in the Ted Kord days, Spider-man's DNA was part of Blue Beetle.
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I didn't know that, but I guess that explains why there's a short released with one of DC's direct-to-video animated movies that pretends to be a '60s Blue Beetle episode in the vein of the '60s Spider-Man cartoon, with limited animation, a catchy theme song, and '60s references, though in a satirical vein rather than playing it straight (the Question is Ted's sidekick and he lectures about objectivism the whole time). On HBO Max, it's the last short film in the compilation under the title Constantine: The House of Mystery, along with the title short and ones based on Kamandi and The Losers.
 
Nerys Myk said:
Even in the Ted Kord days, Spider-man's DNA was part of Blue Beetle.
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To be clear, I'm disparaging what I see as this movie's attempt to emulate one specific version of Spider-Man (Tom Holland) as depicted in one specific film (Spider-Man Homecoming), not any general similarities between the Blue Beetle and Spider-Man characters overall.
 
I'm almost tempted to do one of the videos where you stop random people on the street and ask them questions, and see once and for all how many random average people actually care that the DC movies are rebooting their universe. Because I still find it very hard to believe that the average movie goer, who probably barely these movies are even connected, is really going to care that much about them doing a reboot.
As for Blue Beetle, I thought it looked pretty good.
 
DigificWriter said:
My position on Spider-Man Homecoming is not news. It's by far the worst Spider-Man movie I've seen to date, primarily because it was, as mentioned, a narrative trainwreck that relegated the supposed titular character to being a guest star who was forced to play second fiddle to Robert Downey Jr. and Jon Favreau.
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You mean like how Captain America had to be led around by Black Widow and Nick Fury in Winter Soldier?
 
Christopher said:
Well, yes, which is why I tried to clarify how the character is portrayed in comics and animation. He's not Spider-Man crossed with Iron Man, but more like Spider-Man crossed with Venom if the Venom symbiote were Iron Man armor. The fact that Jaime has an intelligent alien superweapon fused to his spine and has to struggle to keep it in check is pretty much the defining aspect of his character. Maybe the second trailer will establish that; it's normal for each of a film's trailers to focus on different aspects of the story.
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Sounds less like Venom, more like the Guyver Bio-Booster Armor

WARNING: R Rated

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Thestral said:
I loved the Jaime/Scarab interactions in Young Justice (the place I've seen BB most), a lot of humor came from Jaime having to reign the Scarab in... and even it growing a little bit. Taking that away seems like a real shame; but of course just because it sounds like Siri in the first trailer doesn't mean it'll stay that way.
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In the comics, Jaime didn't realize that scarab's true purpose at first. He had an opportunity to build a relationship with it before it became "activated" (I can't remember the details) and it was that relationship that helped him gain control over it. I'm not familiar with the Young Justice version, but it seems like he still hasn't learned to fully control the scarab? In the mini-series that is currently running, he's lost control of the scarab again and the other heroes are worried this could mean the scarab is going back to its old ways although there are hints this is not the case.
 
DigificWriter said:
To be clear, I'm disparaging what I see as this movie's attempt to emulate one specific version of Spider-Man (Tom Holland) as depicted in one specific film (Spider-Man Homecoming), not any general similarities between the Blue Beetle and Spider-Man characters overall.
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Homecoming, where your main critique appears to be that the titular Spider-Man played second fiddle to Iron Man? Okay, so ... who is Jaime overshadowed by in this trailer?
 
Kai "the spy" said:
Homecoming, where your main critique appears to be that the titular Spider-Man played second fiddle to Iron Man? Okay, so ... who is Jaime overshadowed by in this trailer?
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With this Blue Beetle trailer, my complaint is that the film seems to be trying too hard to emulate the general template and tone of Spider-Man Homecoming, not that it is making the same specific narrative mistakes (overshadowing the titular character) as that film.

It also doesn't help that the cast includes a person whom I find to be crass, annoying, and not the least bit funny (George Lopez).
 
DigificWriter said:
With this Blue Beetle trailer, my complaint is that the film seems to be trying too hard to emulate the general template and tone of Spider-Man Homecoming, not that it is making the same specific narrative mistakes (overshadowing the titular character) as that film.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man:_Homecoming
Lol - the film made 880 Million in Worldwide Box Office receipts. That's 1,080,039,164 in 2023 adjusting for inflation.

I'm sure Zaslav would LOVE that level of 'mistake' on any of the recently released DCEU films.
 
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