Spoilers Starship Design in Star Trek: Picard

[fireproof78]

Because some things simply deserve to get tossed out on their ass.

Like this one.

This probably sounds very clear to you. Now, at the risk of sounding very dense, how does one determine what doesn't and doesn't deserve it? Because, if we do that, then, as Tuskin alludes, why are we clinging on to this Season because of all the fan service? Shouldn't have all been tossed out the way TOS was by Roddenberry with TMP?

 

[Tuskin38]

I’m starting to think the Enterprise E will be the ship being retired and the promo with the F is misleading.After the Starfleet Museum I just can’t see them saying oh this happened offscreen to a ship Picard has history with.

There's been 2 pictures mentioning the F's early retirement in 2 episodes already.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

how does one determine what doesn't and doesn't deserve it?

Common sense.

Like Captain Pike in TOS having a problem with women on the bridge. You don't think THAT deserved to get cut?

 

[Racefuel]

Its been established we've been baited using a clever raise of sarcasm.

The point being that we can scrub things from canon if we want for story sake

 

[Nerys Myk]

Its been established we've been baited using a clever raise of sarcasm.

The point being that we can scrub things from canon if we want for story sake

Not sure “we” can, but there are people who can.

 

[fireproof78]

Common sense.

Seriously? Who determines common sense?

The point being that we can scrub things from canon if we want for story sake

Respectfully, why put the fuss on canon then? We've been spending the past 6 weeks fawning over this season because of the fan service and now it can be tossed aside?

This is why I struggle with Trek opinions at times. It reminds me of the old obscenity laws; "I can't define but but I know it when I see it."

Now, I'm no longer sarcastic; I'm just confused.

Not sure “we” can, but there are people who can.

But when they do it it's wrong and disrespectful unless it's the right kind of discarding then it's totally fine...

 

[NCC-73515]

I should clarify.
Each version is a Constitution class.
But the configuration from 2265 to 2270 is THE Constitution class.

TOS has the Connie I
TMP the Connie II
PIC the Connie III
which makes the Discoprise a Connie 0


(Or is the Cage one a 0 and the Discoprise a Connie -1? )

 

[Nate]

There's been 2 pictures mentioning the F's early retirement in 2 episodes already.

It’s all part of the conspiracy!

 

[Dukhat]

Boy, serial contrarians can really derail a thread topic, you know? I haven’t seen this much back-and-forth ‘I’m right! No, I’m right!’ nonsense since before Timo got banned. Starship design in Star Trek: Picard, remember?

 

[Gepard]

since before Timo got banned

Oh shit, Timo got banned? Must have happened during my break because I missed that.

 

[WarpFactorZ]

The refit of the Titan-A is explained as the result of resource scarcity following the 2385 destruction of Utopia Planitia. Starfleet lacks the resources to produce certain parts.

Seems like it would have been smart of them to spread their starship construction resources across the ENTIRE HUGE VAST FEDERATION!...

 

[Dukhat]

Seems like it would have been smart of them to spread their starship construction resources across the ENTIRE HUGE VAST FEDERATION!...

Well, I don’t think that explanation was never actually mentioned in the show (not that it really makes much sense anyway.) But what was mentioned was that all current Federation starships are networked together, implying that older vessel classes from the Akira back through to the TOS/TMP era are no longer in service (if the ‘relics’ Shaw refers to in the museum are any indication), and that those decommissioned ships could be used as raw material for new ships. Of course with replicator technology this would logically not matter.

 

[fireproof78]

Seems like it would have been smart of them to spread their starship construction resources across the ENTIRE HUGE VAST FEDERATION!...

I would agree but those shipyards might be specialized. And I still hold on to the very simply theory that it's not just the shipyards but the loss of work force and personnel with training and knowledge through the Dominion War and the Synth attack that would have cost them a lot of personnel. Knowledge and capable personnel is just as important as materials and shipyards.

It's not just one piece that fell.

 

[Racefuel]

Well, I don’t think that explanation was never actually mentioned in the show (not that it really makes much sense anyway.) But what was mentioned was that all current Federation starships are networked together, implying that older vessel classes from the Akira back through to the TOS/TMP era are no longer in service (if the ‘relics’ Shaw refers to in the museum are any indication), and that those decommissioned ships could be used as raw material for new ships. Of course with replicator technology this would logically not matter.

The only "old" class we've seen so far is the Sovereigns and Akiras I think (In S2). I'm not sure we've even seen any of the Galaxy class, just the Galaxy class-ish Ross class.

 

[Dukhat]

Yeah, the Akiras are the oldest ships still in service by 2401.

 

[Agony_Boothb]

The title of the recent Trekyards video about the Enterprise-A 'Terry brought sexy back' made me want to vomit

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

The title of the recent Trekyards video about the Enterprise-A 'Terry brought sexy back' made me want to vomit

Yeah! Leave the TARDIS out of this!

 

[TimeIsAPredator]

Boy, serial contrarians can really derail a thread topic, you know? I haven’t seen this much back-and-forth ‘I’m right! No, I’m right!’ nonsense since before Timo got banned. Starship design in Star Trek: Picard, remember?

You're wrong.

 

[Dukhat]

You're wrong.

Very funny.

 

[Magistos]

I try to keep things in perspective thanks to XKCD.