Wrong again!
Spoilers The Starfleet Museum
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Wrong again!
Btw, what if one of the ships at the Starfleet museum was a Kelvin Connie? (They haven't shown ALL of the ships yet there in this week's episode).
As to how the hell it got there from the Kelvin timeline? They would never actually explain it. Perhaps Jack Crusher could ask, "What the hell is THAT? I've never seen or heard of this Starfleet ship before" with Geordi responding with "It's a long story. Ask me again later". Would that be a clever easter egg or would it be a bit too much fanservice?
As to how the hell it got there from the Kelvin timeline? They would never actually explain it. Perhaps Jack Crusher could ask, "What the hell is THAT? I've never seen or heard of this Starfleet ship before" with Geordi responding with "It's a long story. Ask me again later". Would that be a clever easter egg or would it be a bit too much fanservice?
It heavily implies it, but I suppose we're at the mercy of whoever's running SNW when the curtains close (or whoever ends up running a hypothetical TOS remake that follows on from it).
I took that as the implication. That the Discoprise may have been the initial iteration of the Constitution Class and at some point the TOS version is actually a refit that is refit again into the movie version (1701-A).So about the USS New Jersey we saw in this week's episode:
This is obviously the TOS version of the Connie (as opposed to the Disco/SNW version). Because of this, does this mean that the Connie we see in SNW will eventually be refitted to look like this?
So about the USS New Jersey we saw in this week's episode:
This is obviously the TOS version of the Connie (as opposed to the Disco/SNW version). Because of this, does this mean that the Connie we see in SNW will eventually be refitted to look like this?
As to the question, who knows? I think it's interesting that PIC leans into recreating Trel's past faithfully whilst SNW/DSC continue to branch into their own thing...
Would the internals of it look the same as TOS/Relics/Trials and Tribble-ations?
As an aside, from ENT, to TOSR, to now, they just can't get the glowing tips of the nacelles to look right in CGI.
I’m curious to the direction that SNW will go once they reintroduce the Klingons in a story. Will they keep the Discovery look from season 2 that kinda tried to merge the changes of season 1 with the movie era/TNG look. Or will they completely abandon the changes Discovery attempted, and revert to the Klingons looking like Worf?
It's just odd to me that we have two concurrent streams of design which are visually at odds with each other. I mean, there would have been fucking HELL to pay from fandom if Worf was made up as a DSC Klingon, I get that, but SNW would feel equally odd if it reverted to the Klingon's we used to know...
I say this as someone who enjoys DSC/SNW and I know the official party line is that they take place within the Prime timeline, but when all are done and dusted it wouldn't surprise me if ten years hence they were regarded generally within fandom and without as taking place within a different continuity...
What a mess, but I suppose that's part of the joy of being a fan.
Heh, for its part the 2021 comic issue Year Five #24 showed the prime George Kirk on the U.S.S. Kelvin in pseudo-TOS design style.
I would love to see the Einstein-class (so named by Federation: The First 150 Years) integrated into DIS/SNW live-action.
Even though the aesthetics are closer to Discovery, the first season of SNW felt like it fits better with everything else. I can’t really explain it, but I can accept SNW fitting in the timeline better than I can Discovery.
Taken with everything else, Discovery has always struck me as the oddball that’s out there doing its own thing.
I will say that I think the writing is on the wall as far as the direction going forward though. It seems the people in charge are leaning hard into nostalgia and making Star Trek that, at least visually, looks like if fits closer to the TNG era.
Heh, for its part the 2021 comic issue Year Five #24 showed the prime George Kirk on the U.S.S. Kelvin in pseudo-TOS design style.
I would love to see the Einstein-class (so named by Federation: The First 150 Years) integrated into DIS/SNW live-action.
I like that!
I know the Kelvin timeline was supposed to have diverged way before the apparent branching point as a side-effect of Trek timelines being a spaghetti mess due to all the time travel, but I think the Kelvin looks perfect as a Prime Timeline ship just as it is and I would've loved to have seen a ship like it in the museum. Or in Discovery for that matter.
It seems TPTB are taking a leaf from the Disney/Star Wars thing of just saying 'what it looked like is what it looked like, warts and all'. A good example being how Andor leaned into 1970s stylings for characters hairstyles, sideburns and so on.
It's certainly interesting.
I think it's pretty clear that it's just dealer's choice at this point. Whoever is running a particular season decides which approach to use. PIC 3 uses a TOS Connie, PIC 1 used a DSC Connie. Sometimes Andorians look like TOS, sometimes they look like DSC. Sometimes you get TOS and Kelvin mixed together, like in Prodigy.
Just pretend that it's like re-casting an actor. They might not look the same, but we all just gotta pretend they do.
Honestly, I'd be totally fine with SNW Klingons being a mix of all the different types we've seen. Like season one of Picard did with the Romulans.
Just pretend that it's like re-casting an actor. They might not look the same, but we all just gotta pretend they do.
Honestly, I'd be totally fine with SNW Klingons being a mix of all the different types we've seen. Like season one of Picard did with the Romulans.
So, here is my personal totally not canon idea for the NX-01.
After ten years of service in Earth Starfleet, it got recalled and retired coinciding with the founding of the Federation.
However, it got then refitted with the secondary engineering hull section and anew Warp 7 engine and re-integrated in the newly founded Federation Starfleet as the NCC-01, no longer an NX class starship, but Enterprise Class.
This way it makes sense that it was retired after only 10 years without contradicting it‘s appearance here as the refit in the museum.
After ten years of service in Earth Starfleet, it got recalled and retired coinciding with the founding of the Federation.
However, it got then refitted with the secondary engineering hull section and anew Warp 7 engine and re-integrated in the newly founded Federation Starfleet as the NCC-01, no longer an NX class starship, but Enterprise Class.
This way it makes sense that it was retired after only 10 years without contradicting it‘s appearance here as the refit in the museum.
And the DCU version of Trek includes USS Gotham City and USS Bludhaven...
That Nebula looks too small to sit within the rings along with the Connies etc.
It's really neat to finally see the fleet museum. I was always wondering how it looked. Now we know it. 
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